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Leland_palmer
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Posted on Wednesday, February 14, 2007 - 9:48 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Just received a Tiger Season ticket catalog in mail today. Does anyone know how many spots are available on the Madison-Lenox site? They are charging $1215 to park there for all 82 games.

Yeah, they'll get right on it putting up a new building there.
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Korridorkid
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Posted on Wednesday, February 14, 2007 - 10:05 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Criminy!

I'd guess 100-150... just a guess.

Anyone interested in going in on season tix? You know-group style. Cheaper price and who can really go to all those games anyway.

Eh, Leland? what say you?

Sorry Lowell if this isn't the correct spot for this. Let me know and i'll recant a thousand times.
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Blort
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Posted on Wednesday, February 14, 2007 - 11:46 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Such a beautiful parking, I must say. Much better then that historic hulk of a building that once stood there........
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Roaringmouse
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Posted on Wednesday, February 14, 2007 - 11:53 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Same lot is giving discounted parking for members of the YMCA. $25/month. Only when any event is going on in the area you can't park after 3:00pm. First day I signed up I went to park at 5:00pm Friday. No go, there was an event at Music Hall at 8:00pm that night. With the Gem across the street would there ever be an evening where I could use it? I cancelled immediately.
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Gistok
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Posted on Wednesday, February 14, 2007 - 11:59 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I highly doubt that I will ever park there. And I bet that a lot of other Forumers feel the same way...
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Lmichigan
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Posted on Thursday, February 15, 2007 - 1:15 am: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

That's definitely one I'd boycott.
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Emu_steve
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Posted on Thursday, February 15, 2007 - 7:00 am: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

K'Kid:

I might be interested in a some tixs. I don't live in MI but do come out say twice a season and I'd be willing to take say two blocks (e.g., a holiday like Memorial Day and say some in early September after Labor Day - I could eat up say 5 tixs).

I can't be as flexible as some where there would be a 'lottery' or 'draft' and folks would choose in rotation their choices of games.
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Rjk
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Posted on Thursday, February 15, 2007 - 7:30 am: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Park at the Greektown Casino for free (Ticket validation) and take that $1215 and jack it into a slot machine. Casinos are always better than parking lots as far as getting a better return on your investment.

As a plus you'll get some exercise walking to the stadium if you're into that type of thing.
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Charlottepaul
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Posted on Thursday, February 15, 2007 - 8:20 am: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

The interesting thing about the CBD is that I think that you really can park anywhere and walk to anywhere from anywhere. I guess one would only spend that much on parking if he were fat and lazy, or really rich and didn't care where he dropped an thousand dollars.
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Mcwalbucksnfitch
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Posted on Thursday, February 15, 2007 - 9:42 am: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Thats true. I almost ALWAYS park on Washington and walk everywhere I need to go...whether it be the riverfront, Campus Martius, the Stadia, JLA, Greektown...

and being a witness to the Demolition of the M-L, I will certainly never park there

(Message edited by mcwalbucksnfitch on February 15, 2007)
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Detroitrulez
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Posted on Thursday, February 15, 2007 - 10:18 am: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

is the Mad-Lenox lot well landscaped? I recall when they were demolishing the old hotel that someone in the Olympia group, Denise perhaps, even went as far as to say they might incorporate some architectural remnants of the old buildings (e.g. archways) into the "landscaped parking lot." Have these visions of a landscaped and architecturally reverential parking lot come to fruition?
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Nainrouge
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Posted on Thursday, February 15, 2007 - 10:49 am: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

If you don't want to validate at Greektown or walk too far, I would recommend a monthly pass at the Opera House parking lot. It is right next door and the monthly rate is $70.
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Nainrouge
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Posted on Thursday, February 15, 2007 - 10:51 am: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Oh, and to answer Detroitrulez, no - the Madison Lennox is just a boring parking lot. They had to get after them as I understand it to even get it paved and lighted.
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Chitaku
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Posted on Thursday, February 15, 2007 - 2:23 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

K kid, i'm down for some tix
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Rrl
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Posted on Thursday, February 15, 2007 - 2:57 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

D-rulez;
There will be no use of architectural remnants, due to the demolition contractor starting the demo on the Lenox's archway as the first order of business. It is certain that someone at the City made sure that the demo was done that way, as there was absolutely no care taken to salvage one ounce of building architecture.

Thank god we're all safer now thanks to the wisdom and quick work of the CoD.
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Emu_steve
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Posted on Thursday, February 15, 2007 - 3:06 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Posters:

Do we need a separate Tig's Season Tix thread?
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Johnlodge
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Posted on Thursday, February 15, 2007 - 3:13 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Rrl, you mean THIS arch? Yeah... Don't think thats getting reused.



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Rrl
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Posted on Thursday, February 15, 2007 - 3:48 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Yep, that's it.
Seems logical; a building the City "claims" was ready to fall down, and the demo contractor starts ripping at the front door. What a barrel of schitt.
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Johnlodge
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Posted on Thursday, February 15, 2007 - 3:51 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Yeah, almost like the city knew that was the part most important to those who were fighting them so hard to preserve it. No front archway, no more resistance. Perhaps we have a spy in our midst...
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Quinn
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Posted on Thursday, February 15, 2007 - 5:42 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I prefer a dirt lot to a historical building. I don't understand the fuss...every time I look a the back of the Milner I think, "Ah...how beautiful!"

Beautiful building or 40 parking spaces on dirt? Eh? Tough one.
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Gistok
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Posted on Thursday, February 15, 2007 - 6:46 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

LOL... yes Quinn... there's nothing quite like looking at the ornate alley side of a building... especially the fancy historic metalwork of the fire escapes! And those cooling towers on the roof are such a nice touch! :-)
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Korridorkid
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Posted on Friday, February 16, 2007 - 1:28 am: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Gistok, buddy--Let us not forget the lovely shade of taupe they added to complement the ruddy structural elements of the alley. Makes those cooling towers really POP, don't ya think?
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Erikd
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Posted on Friday, February 16, 2007 - 2:13 am: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

quote:

Just received a Tiger Season ticket catalog in mail today. Does anyone know how many spots are available on the Madison-Lenox site? They are charging $1215 to park there for all 82 games.



$1215 for all 82 games???!!! Are they fucking serious?

Ilitch bought a historical building (the ML) in a historical district, and then used his influence to circumvent the legal requirements for demolition. The bullshit demo was bad enough, but the fact that the city gave him $700,000 to perpetrate it just adds insult to injury.

Now that this nefarious scheme has played out, Ilitch is using his ill-gotten gains to fleece even more money from unsuspecting people by grossly overcharging them for parking.
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If the unethical and corrupt scheme that resulted in the ML parking lot doesn't turn you off, the insane prices should.

While Ilitch was using his influence to circumvent historical preservation laws, and getting a big government handout to pay for the demolition of a historic building to make way for his hideous parking lot, the Opera House was raising funds to replace an ugly and crumbling parking garage with a very nice new structure and retail building.

Unlike the ugly ML parking lot, the new Opera House garage is a nice upgrade to the neighborhood, and it also offers parking for a reasonable price.
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The Tigers play 82 home games from April 2 to September 26, and Mike Ilitch is charging $1215 to park on his ML lot JUST FOR THE GAMES. The brand new Opera House garage is about 100 feet further down John R, and they are only charging $420 for 24 hour parking from April 1 to September 30.
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Spirit2028
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Posted on Friday, February 16, 2007 - 5:38 am: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I don't want to get to technical but I did the math cause I was curious what the parking worked out per game. There are actually 81 home games and at a nice round price of $15 a game you would get the total of $1215. What a bargain ! (Is there possibly a bonus game when they play the Toledo Mud Hens ? would this be game #82 ?) I remember when Detroit Synergy had a hug the Madison-Lenox event. All for naught. The thought that Ilitch got $700,000 to tear down the building is simply appalling. Our fair city seems to have a penchant for tearing down historic buildings and replacing them with parking lots. Anyone remember the Motown and Donovan Buildings ? We're certainly blessed with another super parking lot within walking distance of the 2 stadiums !

(Message edited by spirit2028 on February 16, 2007)
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Leland_palmer
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Posted on Friday, February 16, 2007 - 9:57 am: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Sorry, I misspoke, it should be 81 games.
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Gistok
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Posted on Friday, February 16, 2007 - 1:38 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

"Supposedly"... that $700,000 was a low or no interest loan.
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Gambling_man
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Posted on Friday, February 16, 2007 - 4:49 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hmmmm...I wonder if they ever paid back that loan. I haven't heard anything about it.
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Dan
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Posted on Friday, February 16, 2007 - 5:24 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

The loan was forgivable if they presented a plan for the site within a certain time frame.
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Charlottepaul
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Posted on Friday, February 16, 2007 - 9:11 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Unfortunately (in most cases), it isn't illegal in Michigan to tear down a building that is a registered historical building, be it on the national register or state's...

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