Al_t_publican Member Username: Al_t_publican
Post Number: 172 Registered: 06-2004
| Posted on Saturday, February 17, 2007 - 7:47 pm: | |
Saw mention of this on ABC 20/20 last night. Where is the source of their bottled water, from a Detroit water pipe? I once spent a week at a cottage on the St. Clair River only to be told at the end of my stay that I had not been drinking water from a well, as I thought, but from direct from the river unfiltered. Hell, it tasted good to me. |
Jams Member Username: Jams
Post Number: 4791 Registered: 10-2003
| Posted on Saturday, February 17, 2007 - 7:50 pm: | |
Pumping facility is at Orchard Lake and 14 mile. |
Eboyer Member Username: Eboyer
Post Number: 13 Registered: 01-2007
| Posted on Saturday, February 17, 2007 - 8:22 pm: | |
Where at 14 and orchard? That area is filled with retail developments... |
Harsensis Member Username: Harsensis
Post Number: 172 Registered: 07-2005
| Posted on Saturday, February 17, 2007 - 8:45 pm: | |
We use to drink water right from the St Clair River, but with so many discharges and spills from the Canadian side we switched to the city water from Algonac about 6 years ago. The water in Muskamoot Bay is a bit cleaner, but you can never tell anymore. |
Rbdetsport Member Username: Rbdetsport
Post Number: 221 Registered: 11-2005
| Posted on Saturday, February 17, 2007 - 11:26 pm: | |
They mentioned what on 20/20? |
Spiritofdetroit Member Username: Spiritofdetroit
Post Number: 299 Registered: 11-2006
| Posted on Saturday, February 17, 2007 - 11:50 pm: | |
that Aquafina water is pulled from the Detroit River |
Cklwbig8 Member Username: Cklwbig8
Post Number: 93 Registered: 02-2005
| Posted on Sunday, February 18, 2007 - 12:27 am: | |
Aquafina bottled water is read "by Reverse Osmosis" so how is that possible ?? this method is almost as good as steam Distilled water. |
Cklwbig8 Member Username: Cklwbig8
Post Number: 94 Registered: 02-2005
| Posted on Sunday, February 18, 2007 - 12:36 am: | |
Tap water will cause your arteries to harden over time which is called arteriosclerosis (hardening of the arteries). It is full of inorganic minerals not to mention poisonous chlorine and flouride. Hard water causes hard arteries !! That's one reason why so many people die of heart attacks. |
Livernoisyard Member Username: Livernoisyard
Post Number: 2568 Registered: 10-2004
| Posted on Sunday, February 18, 2007 - 2:25 am: | |
quote:...It is full of inorganic minerals not to mention poisonous chlorine and flouride... So, organic minerals, such as coal or petroleum, are healthier to drink than those found in hard water? |
Cklwbig8 Member Username: Cklwbig8
Post Number: 95 Registered: 02-2005
| Posted on Sunday, February 18, 2007 - 2:38 am: | |
the only water that is healthy to drink is distilled water which is nature's water rain water is naturally distilled but because the earth is now polluted that is not healthy so buying or making your own distilled water is the only way to drink clean water. |
Smogboy Member Username: Smogboy
Post Number: 4501 Registered: 11-2004
| Posted on Sunday, February 18, 2007 - 4:10 am: | |
But getting back to Aquafina- from the sounds of it, their Reverse Osmosis process is much healthier than tap water. Isn't the Reverse Osmosis process filtering it extensively to the point of nearly no minerals?? |
Yelloweyes Member Username: Yelloweyes
Post Number: 66 Registered: 02-2007
| Posted on Sunday, February 18, 2007 - 8:53 am: | |
Quote: "Tap water will cause your arteries to harden over time which is called arteriosclerosis (hardening of the arteries)." All this time I though it was a diet high in saturated fats and little to no exercise. They must have lied to me in my exercise physiology class! I guess I should drink bacon grease instead of water. |
Cklwbig8 Member Username: Cklwbig8
Post Number: 96 Registered: 02-2005
| Posted on Sunday, February 18, 2007 - 11:15 am: | |
Yea yelloweyes...of course it is also diet and high saturated fats. stress too. AND ALSO hard water full of minerals. will make your arteries stiff. and yes smogboy reverse osmosis is almost as good as distilled where it is free of harmful ingorganic minerals. |
Burnsie Member Username: Burnsie
Post Number: 852 Registered: 11-2003
| Posted on Sunday, February 18, 2007 - 12:52 pm: | |
Cklwbig8-- would you care to cite a scientific study (journal citation if available), and/or quote from a legitimate scientist? Either there has been a huge and impossible conspiracy to conceal your conclusion about tap water, or else you've gotten your idea out of nowhere. |
Fareastsider Member Username: Fareastsider
Post Number: 109 Registered: 08-2006
| Posted on Sunday, February 18, 2007 - 12:55 pm: | |
There are different types of bottled water. if it says it is spring water it is from a spring. If it says "drinking water" it is literally from the tap and probably filtered. Most major cities have local pop bottlers. Our local aquafina and Dasani and any other local bottler that sells "drinking water" is literally selling you tap water that they ran through a filter. Aquafina and Dasani is just drinking water. In other cities the water comes from their local source more than likely |
Cklwbig8 Member Username: Cklwbig8
Post Number: 97 Registered: 02-2005
| Posted on Sunday, February 18, 2007 - 2:05 pm: | |
Burnsie.. Please Read "the shocking truth about water" by Paul Bragg N.D Ph.D he was also a biochemist and life extension specialist. |
Jimaz Member Username: Jimaz
Post Number: 1575 Registered: 12-2005
| Posted on Sunday, February 18, 2007 - 2:11 pm: | |
Distilled water has no minerals whatsoever. Your body needs some of those minerals found in water. That's why minerals are often mentions with vitamins, as in "Take your vitamins and minerals." If you're drinking only distilled water, you'd better make sure you're getting those minerals elsewhere. |
Thejesus Member Username: Thejesus
Post Number: 615 Registered: 06-2006
| Posted on Sunday, February 18, 2007 - 2:14 pm: | |
The whole point of Aquafina is to take tap water and purify it...I never understand why people are surprised to learn that the purified water they are drinking originated from a tap...where else would it come from? They aren't so much selling you the water as they are selling you the purification process they developed, and they can process water from just about any source...and it tastes great in my opinion...there's nothing more refreshing than an ice cold purified Aquafina, especially for only 16 cents a bottle, which is what I pay when I buy it in bulk from Sam's Club... (Message edited by thejesus on February 18, 2007) |
Cklwbig8 Member Username: Cklwbig8
Post Number: 98 Registered: 02-2005
| Posted on Sunday, February 18, 2007 - 2:29 pm: | |
umm your NOT supposed to get minerals from water. YOu get organic minerals from fresh food. FRUITS AND VEGETABLES NOT WATER. |
Cklwbig8 Member Username: Cklwbig8
Post Number: 99 Registered: 02-2005
| Posted on Sunday, February 18, 2007 - 2:34 pm: | |
Tap Water AND SPRING/WELL WATER contains inorganic minerals that your body does NOT have a use for. ex Calcium carbonate.. well that's what gives you kidney stones. ONLY DISTILLED WATER AND REVERSE OSMOSIS IS SAFE PEOPLE. you can take water from anywhere and put it thru distillation and or reverse osmosis and it becomes clean and freem of minerals and bacteria. so it doesn't matter where aquafina gets the water from because it BECOMES CLEAN. |
Focusonthed Member Username: Focusonthed
Post Number: 846 Registered: 02-2006
| Posted on Sunday, February 18, 2007 - 3:42 pm: | |
Only in today's culture could someone do a study and "find" that WATER, of all things, is dangerous. WATER, the stuff we've been drinking out of the ground and out of the sky for our entire human existence. |
Charlottepaul Member Username: Charlottepaul
Post Number: 524 Registered: 10-2006
| Posted on Sunday, February 18, 2007 - 3:44 pm: | |
Isn't Absopure from Michigan as well? |
Yelloweyes Member Username: Yelloweyes
Post Number: 73 Registered: 02-2007
| Posted on Sunday, February 18, 2007 - 6:11 pm: | |
Air also has chemicals in it that may be harmful to our bodies. Breathe only purified air, to prevent cancer. (Sarcasm implied) Ckl- You still haven't provided your scientific source. |
The_nerd Member Username: The_nerd
Post Number: 387 Registered: 12-2003
| Posted on Sunday, February 18, 2007 - 6:12 pm: | |
I found this interesting in Today's NYTimes. I know the COD filters our water, but who would've realized that a city as large as NYC drank unfiltered tap water (even if the source is upstate resevors). Also remember that the water tunnels have been in operation for almost 100 years without ANY maintanence (they're building a third tunnel now)
quote:The upstate water is of such good quality, in fact, that the city is not even required to filter it, a distinction shared with only four other major American cities: Boston, San Francisco, Seattle and Portland, Ore. New Yorkers drink their water from Esopus Creek, from Schoharie Creek, from the Neversink River, straight from the city’s many reservoirs, with only a rough screening and, for most of the year, just a shot of chlorine and chasers of fluoride, orthophosphate and sodium hydroxide. But that state of affairs may not last. In late spring or early summer, the United States Environmental Protection Agency will decide whether New York water is still pure enough to drink without filtering. Development in the city’s upstate watershed areas, as well as the increasingly stormy weather that comes with climate change, is threatening the water’s mythic purity. If the federal agency does conclude that city water is too sullied to be consumed directly, New York will have to spend huge sums on filtering, close the book on 165 years of filter-free taps — and absorb a major blow to its hometown pride. http://www.nytimes.com/2007/02 /18/nyregion/thecity/18feat.ht ml |
Cklwbig8 Member Username: Cklwbig8
Post Number: 100 Registered: 02-2005
| Posted on Sunday, February 18, 2007 - 6:42 pm: | |
yelloweyes.. i mentioned "the shocking truth about water". by Paul Bragg. He was the man who INVENTED the health movement in america. He could run and swim for miles in his 90's. He drank only distilled water and consumed ONLY natural foods after age 16. He had NO stiff joints or arthritis of any kind. There is nothing scientific about healthy water or being healthy.. all you have to do is avoid things that are made/and or tampered with by humans and that includes TAP WATER. |
Gistok Member Username: Gistok
Post Number: 3659 Registered: 08-2004
| Posted on Sunday, February 18, 2007 - 11:47 pm: | |
Cklwbig8, I don't doubt what you read by Paul Bragg. But I don't believe it. European's drink A LOT of (carbonated at the source) mineral water. They drink large quantities of it mainly because their tap water is not all that great. But Europeans have a lower level of artery clogging problems than Americans do. |
Livernoisyard Member Username: Livernoisyard
Post Number: 2569 Registered: 10-2004
| Posted on Monday, February 19, 2007 - 12:18 am: | |
Why would anybody ever touch the stuff, considering all the different chemical names it has: dihydrogen monoxide, hydrogen oxide, hydrogen hydroxide, hydroxic acid, hydroylic acid, hydroxilic acid, mu-oxido dihydrogen, and oxidane? |
Mikeg Member Username: Mikeg
Post Number: 598 Registered: 12-2005
| Posted on Monday, February 19, 2007 - 1:32 am: | |
quote:Why would anybody ever touch the stuff, considering all the different chemical names it has: dihydrogen monoxide, hydrogen oxide, hydrogen hydroxide, hydroxic acid, hydroylic acid, hydroxilic acid, mu-oxido dihydrogen, and oxidane? Even worse, tap water also contains dissolved N2, Ar, Ne and He! |
Nyburgher Member Username: Nyburgher
Post Number: 55 Registered: 10-2006
| Posted on Monday, February 19, 2007 - 1:43 am: | |
Oh god, I am surrounded by chemicals. Help me!!! I am an expert on these matters. I am not a doctor. I didn't play one on TV. But I have watched a lot of guys play doctors on TV. I also have personal experiences with water. |
Cklwbig8 Member Username: Cklwbig8
Post Number: 101 Registered: 02-2005
| Posted on Monday, February 19, 2007 - 6:34 am: | |
Yes Gistok Europeans drink alot of carbonated water but their tap water does not have chlorine in it or flouride. Also that's when food comes into play as well as what you drink. See what hard water (tap water) does after years of dripping ? there's corrosion. well guess what inside your arteries is the same thing. |
Mikeg Member Username: Mikeg
Post Number: 599 Registered: 12-2005
| Posted on Monday, February 19, 2007 - 9:19 am: | |
Cklwbig8 wrote:
....Paul Bragg. He was the man who INVENTED the health movement in america. He could run and swim for miles in his 90's.... That must have been quite a sight to see, a corpse that could run and swim!!! According to Social Security records, your Paul Bragg was born in Feb. 1895 and died in Dec. 1976 at age 81. [source] I read somewhere that you will be completely safe while drinking tap water if you use one of these. |
Swiburn Member Username: Swiburn
Post Number: 51 Registered: 07-2006
| Posted on Monday, February 19, 2007 - 9:32 am: | |
That's "soft" water that hardens the arteries, not hard water. There is more sodium in soft water, which is why people with high blood pressure shouldn't use the sodium water softener products. |
Ro_resident Member Username: Ro_resident
Post Number: 208 Registered: 11-2003
| Posted on Monday, February 19, 2007 - 10:32 am: | |
The FDA and EPA partially regulate the bottled water industry. Some terms are regulated, such as 'spring water', but others are not. http://www.epa.gov/safewater/f aq/pdfs/fs_healthseries_bottle water.pdf Bottled at the source: (DWSD in small type) just isn't as sexy. And, on the face of it, drinking only distilled water only for health reasons sounds like bunk. Yes, I can see eating and exercising leading to a healthy life. But, in this world of monitoring cholesterol, HDL and LDLs, I thought it was pretty common knowledge that atherosclerosis was caused by the deposition of lipids (fatty substances) on arterial walls. Not necessarily the precipitation of calcium in the blood vessels. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A therosclerosis On top of that, with the active sports drink market, sometimes it is useful to replenish electrolytes in an aqueous form. Just watch out for the sugar! And from personal experience, don't test drive a new drink on the day of a race. Ugh. |
Harsensis Member Username: Harsensis
Post Number: 175 Registered: 07-2005
| Posted on Monday, February 19, 2007 - 1:50 pm: | |
Even more bad news about tap water is here http://www.dhmo.org/facts.html Dangerous stuff! |
Nyburgher Member Username: Nyburgher
Post Number: 56 Registered: 10-2006
| Posted on Monday, February 19, 2007 - 2:27 pm: | |
As far as I know, Soft water is suspected in contributing to heart ailments in the south east. I think I saw a doctor on TV say that or something. Plus it might make your kids gay!!! Sorry, that is a JOKE. |
Nyburgher Member Username: Nyburgher
Post Number: 57 Registered: 10-2006
| Posted on Monday, February 19, 2007 - 2:35 pm: | |
http://www.time.com/time/magaz ine/article/0,9171,826389,00.h tml |
Nyburgher Member Username: Nyburgher
Post Number: 58 Registered: 10-2006
| Posted on Monday, February 19, 2007 - 2:42 pm: | |
Sounds like Detroit has strong and manly water supply. "Of 25 states with harder-than-average water, all but Florida and Kentucky are north or west of the Ohio River. And in these 25, except Indiana and Illinois, death rates from heart-artery disease are below the national average. In more than two-thirds of the soft-water states (east or south of the Ohio, plus Louisiana, Arkansas, Oregon and Washington—see map), the rates were above average." |
Cklwbig8 Member Username: Cklwbig8
Post Number: 102 Registered: 02-2005
| Posted on Monday, February 19, 2007 - 4:27 pm: | |
HEY Mikeg.. that is not a source. someone started that rumour to spoil Paul Bragg's image. His Daughter who is now in her 90's and healthy mentioned in an interview that he was at his prime physically when he died at age 96. Also distilled water is NOT "soft water" I don't know about you guys but im not going to leave my health in the hands of the FDA or the Government. WHO DO U TRUST |
Livernoisyard Member Username: Livernoisyard
Post Number: 2572 Registered: 10-2004
| Posted on Monday, February 19, 2007 - 4:31 pm: | |
Did the Big 8 play a lot of Twilight Zone music? |
Mikeg Member Username: Mikeg
Post Number: 601 Registered: 12-2005
| Posted on Monday, February 19, 2007 - 4:54 pm: | |
HEY Cklwbig8, That link does give you the source - you just didn't scroll down far enough and follow the links provided. Here is the link that will take you directly to the results from the Social Security Death Index that contain "Dr." Bragg's birth and death information, which I have extracted and uploaded for you you to see:
I trust the Social Security Administration's records more than I trust any "medical" advice offered anonymously on an Internet Forum. |
Ptero Member Username: Ptero
Post Number: 89 Registered: 12-2005
| Posted on Monday, February 19, 2007 - 5:08 pm: | |
love the Twilight Zone. dee dee dee dumb... dee dee dee dumb... |
Yelloweyes Member Username: Yelloweyes
Post Number: 78 Registered: 02-2007
| Posted on Monday, February 19, 2007 - 8:08 pm: | |
My wifes grandfather lived until he was 95. He drank tap water. |
Charlottepaul Member Username: Charlottepaul
Post Number: 536 Registered: 10-2006
| Posted on Monday, February 19, 2007 - 8:10 pm: | |
RELAX! RELAX! Even peanut butter has recently been harmful. Nothing is perfect; just live with the water!!! |
Jimaz Member Username: Jimaz
Post Number: 1580 Registered: 12-2005
| Posted on Monday, February 19, 2007 - 8:31 pm: | |
"I never drink water because of the disgusting things that fish do in it." -- W.C. Fields |
Detroitplanner Member Username: Detroitplanner
Post Number: 998 Registered: 04-2006
| Posted on Monday, February 19, 2007 - 8:51 pm: | |
I am amazed that only Jimaz has brought up drinking booze instead (indirectly). I'd rather drink Detroit tap water than Mountain Dew or most of the other crap that comes out of that factory. Sure I'll take a Pepsi now and then, but water is my main drink. |
Jimaz Member Username: Jimaz
Post Number: 1583 Registered: 12-2005
| Posted on Monday, February 19, 2007 - 9:25 pm: | |
After smelling way too much chlorine in Phoenix tap water, and reading of the benzene in soft drinks, I'm very happy with Detroit tap water. It's just another reason for Detroit pride. |
Cklwbig8 Member Username: Cklwbig8
Post Number: 103 Registered: 02-2005
| Posted on Monday, February 19, 2007 - 10:56 pm: | |
yelloweyes.. some men make it to 95 even though they smoked cigarettes all their life so does that mean smoking is safe?? |
Livernoisyard Member Username: Livernoisyard
Post Number: 2573 Registered: 10-2004
| Posted on Monday, February 19, 2007 - 11:05 pm: | |
To any petrophobics: Just how could you be sure of the source of water used in food processing? Are you absolving from food, too? Plan to live to age 95 doing that? Some worrywarts (phobics, in general) have too much time on their hands... |
Ookpik Member Username: Ookpik
Post Number: 58 Registered: 01-2007
| Posted on Tuesday, February 20, 2007 - 12:04 am: | |
Now that water is bad for you, I guess I better stick to Soylent Green, Pop Rocks and Coca-Cola. |
Cklwbig8 Member Username: Cklwbig8
Post Number: 104 Registered: 02-2005
| Posted on Tuesday, February 20, 2007 - 6:34 am: | |
YEs.. I heard Coca Cola is great for you. actually all pop. Beer is great too. |
Jman Member Username: Jman
Post Number: 25 Registered: 10-2006
| Posted on Tuesday, February 20, 2007 - 9:17 am: | |
"Beer is great too." Finally, some good news! |
Beavis1981 Member Username: Beavis1981
Post Number: 198 Registered: 08-2006
| Posted on Tuesday, February 20, 2007 - 2:33 pm: | |
Why is this news to you people??!!! They printed a lengthy article in the freep at least 7yrs ago!!!! The article listed dasani and aquafina as coming from "municipal sources"!!!! Where do you think they get the water for coke and pepsi products??!! There has been a recent movement by morons to boycott ice mountain because it drains the great lakes. Here's some "news" people- if you have a well or city water you are draining the great lakes. Stupid, Stupid, Stupid. |
Douglasm Member Username: Douglasm
Post Number: 775 Registered: 10-2003
| Posted on Tuesday, February 20, 2007 - 3:16 pm: | |
Somebody should note somewhere that it pays to look at a bottle of spring water before you buy it. Most "drinking water" (i.e. Aquafina) come from the tap and is purified in one way or another, but if your bottle of spring water says "bottled from a community water source", it comes from, well...... |
Craggy Member Username: Craggy
Post Number: 227 Registered: 10-2003
| Posted on Tuesday, February 20, 2007 - 3:41 pm: | |
Jimaz... the real quote from WC fields is actually quite a bit racier. When asked why he never drank water, W.C. Fields said simply "Fish **** in it." (Message edited by craggy on February 20, 2007) |
Cklwbig8 Member Username: Cklwbig8
Post Number: 105 Registered: 02-2005
| Posted on Tuesday, February 20, 2007 - 3:45 pm: | |
HELLO.. WHETHER IT COMES FROM THE RIVER/LAKE DOESN'T F*&K'N MATTER BECAUSE AFTER REVERSE OSMOSIS IT IS ALMOST 0 PPM. (ZERO PARTS PER MILLION) oR IF YOU RUN ANY TYPE OF WATER EX.LAKE ERIE WATER THRU THE DISTILLATION PROCESS IT BECOMES PERFECTLY CLEAN. AQUAFINA AND DASANI BOTH USE "REVERSE OSMOSIS" PROCESS BUT IT HAS TO SAY SO ON THE BOTTLE ..GET IT YET OR NO?? |
Livernoisyard Member Username: Livernoisyard
Post Number: 2585 Registered: 10-2004
| Posted on Tuesday, February 20, 2007 - 4:50 pm: | |
What I don't get is why some morons would gladly pay so much for water in bottles in communities where the water is safe to drink. But wait, some believers, i.e., whackos actually think that those who don't drink bottled water are indeed the stupid ones. Now I get it... |
Cklwbig8 Member Username: Cklwbig8
Post Number: 106 Registered: 02-2005
| Posted on Tuesday, February 20, 2007 - 5:44 pm: | |
yea only whackos, moron's and weirdo's care about their own personal health. what a crazy world. Would u rather people go out and pay for a pack of cigarettes or something than bottled water? |
Beavis1981 Member Username: Beavis1981
Post Number: 205 Registered: 08-2006
| Posted on Tuesday, February 20, 2007 - 5:49 pm: | |
^^ well you definetly found the right forum you obviously know how to argue about nothing for hours |
Livernoisyard Member Username: Livernoisyard
Post Number: 2587 Registered: 10-2004
| Posted on Tuesday, February 20, 2007 - 5:53 pm: | |
I knew of a street person in Madison who liked (others to buy him) bottled water. But again, he would shout things like, "I hear razor blades slashing in the air... Don't you?" Regular pedestrians tended to cross over to the other side of the street from him. |
Spacemonkey Member Username: Spacemonkey
Post Number: 149 Registered: 03-2006
| Posted on Tuesday, February 20, 2007 - 6:45 pm: | |
I only drink from the Rouge River. |
Harsensis Member Username: Harsensis
Post Number: 176 Registered: 07-2005
| Posted on Tuesday, February 20, 2007 - 8:46 pm: | |
People spend lots on bottled water, that is why Evien is Nieve spelled backwards. Speaking of Detroit water, I remember reading something about a drug company buying Parke Davis or a different drug company and they moved the operations to an East Coast State. Then they found that they couldn't make the drug work using water from a different source. |
Hysteria Member Username: Hysteria
Post Number: 2481 Registered: 02-2006
| Posted on Tuesday, February 20, 2007 - 9:15 pm: | |
quote:People spend lots on bottled water, that is why Evien is Nieve spelled backwards. Except it's spelled Evian. |
Cklwbig8 Member Username: Cklwbig8
Post Number: 107 Registered: 02-2005
| Posted on Tuesday, February 20, 2007 - 9:27 pm: | |
Prescription pills are prepared with distilled water. |
Buzzman0077 Member Username: Buzzman0077
Post Number: 11 Registered: 11-2006
| Posted on Tuesday, February 20, 2007 - 10:37 pm: | |
Being in medical school right now, everything I have heard is that there are conditions in which there is increased calcium deposition in the walls of our vasculature, but that they do not contribute to atherosclerosis. In fact the chemicals which are added to our tap water have vastly improved the health of the country. Periodontal disease is also a risk factor for heart and vascular disorders and is greatly decreased by the presence of fluoride in our water supply. There are many ways to decrease your risk of heart disease, and I would put drinking only distilled water near the bottom of the list. I would suspect that if Paul Bragg was running and swimming into his 90's its more likely and active lifestyle and diet low in fat high in fiber were the biggest contributors to his longevity |
Cklwbig8 Member Username: Cklwbig8
Post Number: 108 Registered: 02-2005
| Posted on Tuesday, February 20, 2007 - 10:57 pm: | |
buzzman.. his super health was also achieved by regularly fasting on distilled water only. Also he only consumed Natural foods, fruits and vegetables and he was the first to import hand made juicers to the U.S.A He was the man who made Jack LaLanne who he is today. Now Jack is in his 90's and was previously breaking all sorts of physical achievements. |
Cklwbig8 Member Username: Cklwbig8
Post Number: 109 Registered: 02-2005
| Posted on Tuesday, February 20, 2007 - 11:14 pm: | |
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/P aul_Bragg |
Harsensis Member Username: Harsensis
Post Number: 177 Registered: 07-2005
| Posted on Tuesday, February 20, 2007 - 11:20 pm: | |
I don't drink Evian so I don't look at the label often. Sorry |
Livernoisyard Member Username: Livernoisyard
Post Number: 2597 Registered: 10-2004
| Posted on Tuesday, February 20, 2007 - 11:45 pm: | |
Somehow this Bragg character was adept at marketing and has won over some converts. Living and dying in Hawaii, he probably lived the good life selling his pills, potions, and what-not. He reminds me of a diet promoter who recently died, allegedly from hitting his head after a fall on an icy sidewalk. Yet, his family denies he suffered a stroke first and then fell, possibly brought upon by his unhealthy diet regimen. And strangely enough, he was a millionaire selling all sorts of stuff too. Any his family keeps running the business. Fancy that! |
Scottr Member Username: Scottr
Post Number: 310 Registered: 07-2006
| Posted on Wednesday, February 21, 2007 - 1:06 am: | |
Cklwbig8 - you may want to look at that wiki page again. normally i'm not one to call out wikipedia on accuracy, but it even SAYS the factual accuracy is disputed. That alone should be a red flag. Looking closer, the 'source' they use to dispute the 1895 birthdate is an anonymous review of one of his books. That's a source? Even the dispute is wishy-washy, saying 'this is almost certainly not' him. The rest of the sources are all from his official website, hardly a neutral party, since it sells products with his name on it. A good source would be a third party site, or at least have some sort of verification for its claims. |
Livernoisyard Member Username: Livernoisyard
Post Number: 2598 Registered: 10-2004
| Posted on Wednesday, February 21, 2007 - 1:29 am: | |
Let's just counter some of the BS on the Bragg site:
quote:Paul Bragg From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia The factual accuracy of this article is disputed. Please see the relevant discussion on the talk page. Paul C. Bragg (1881 -1976) - nutritionist, was a pioneer in America’s health reform movement. There was a Paul Bragg from Palm Springs, CA who was born in 1895, but this is almost certainly not nutritionist Paul C. Bragg. Bragg advocated using deep breathing, water fasts, organic foods, drinking distilled water, juicing, exercise and listening to one's body as methods of prolonging life span. He believed that every human can live to 120 by living a healthy life. Well, the head health honcho didn't make it to 120 himself while he was pushing his pills...
quote:His daughter, Patricia Bragg, had since taken over the Bragg's health empire. Some of Bragg's achievements: * Bragg Health Crusades presented Health Lectures across America. * Bragg was one of the first to introduce pineapple juice and tomato juice to America. Oh, another Algore--practically inventing tomato juice. He probably was one of the first, I'm impressed NOT.
quote:* He introduced Juice Therapy in America by importing the first hand-juicers. * He was the first to introduce and distribute honey and date sugar nationwide. Gosh, he practically invented honey and date sugar...
quote:* Bragg pioneered Radio Health Programs from Hollywood three times daily in the 20s. Typical, as radio had all kinds of quacks back then. For instance, goat gland operations were pushed by radio doctors for male impotency then until they were banished to super-high-powered Mexican stations with Del Rio, TX addresses.
quote:* Bragg and daughter Patricia Bragg pioneered a Health TV show from Hollywood to spread The Bragg Health Crusade on their show, Health and Happiness. It included exercises, health recipes, visual demonstrations and guest appearances by famous, health-minded people. The very same daughter who inherited Paul's vast empire later ran a TV show. Maybe she knew the Bakers...
quote:* Bragg opened one of the first health restaurants. * He marketed many different health foods and products nationwide: herbal teas, health beverages, vitamin drinks, seven-grain cereals and crackers, health cosmetics, health candies, calcium, vitamins and mineral supplements, wheat germ, digestive enzymes from papaya, herbs and kelp seasonings, and amino acids from soybeans. There will be an opening for such a shop in Ferndale really soon. BTW, if one takes a Bragg mineral supplement pill with distilled oxidane, how is the body fooled that it is not ingesting any minerals??? Mind over matter, perhaps? There's a major-league inconsistency with the Big 800 over this point...
quote:Crippled by tuberculosis as a teenager, Bragg developed his own eating, breathing and exercising program to rebuild his body. He excelled in running, swimming, biking, progressive weight training and mountain climbing. He made an early pledge to God, in return for his renewed health, to spend the rest of his life showing others the road to super health. Bragg was the inspiration and personal health and fitness advisor to top Olympic stars from 4-time swimming Gold Medalist Murray Rose to 3-time track Gold Medalist Betty Cuthbert of Australia, his relative (pole-vaulting Gold Medalist), Don Bragg and countless others. Jack LaLanne, the original TV Fitness King said, “Bragg saved my life at age 15 when I attended the Bragg Crusade in Oakland, California.” Paul Bragg also wrote many successful books, such as "The Miracle of Fasting". Books are considered successes by how many are sold--not it they were any good... Some people like Albom's books; many don't. He sold a bunch, though.
quote:Bragg died while surfing on Hawaii. Is it possible to surf on Hawaii? Maybe that's what killed Paul. (Message edited by LivernoisYard on February 21, 2007) |
Mike_from_gregory Member Username: Mike_from_gregory
Post Number: 1 Registered: 02-2007
| Posted on Wednesday, February 21, 2007 - 3:57 am: | |
I work for the bottler of Aquafina (Pepsi) and I can say that our Michigan plants, theres only two. Have state of the art water treatment plants that treat the water that they get from the municipalities to make soda as well as bottled waters, flavored (et al). This water is SUPERIOR TO ANYTHING THAT COMES OUT OF ANYONES TAP If 20 20 researched their stories just a tad before spewing their shit about a great product, yes its true Pepsi and coke get the water frome Kwame s water dept but they make it MUCH MUCH PURER THAN ANYTHING YOU THE PEOPLE GET OUTTA YER TAPS get it. |
Beavis1981 Member Username: Beavis1981
Post Number: 210 Registered: 08-2006
| Posted on Wednesday, February 21, 2007 - 4:06 am: | |
^^Don't worry, anyone with half a brain knows this. This thread belongs in the "it's from detroit so it must be bad" category |
Cklwbig8 Member Username: Cklwbig8
Post Number: 110 Registered: 02-2005
| Posted on Wednesday, February 21, 2007 - 6:36 am: | |
LIVERNOIS are u that dumb ? he didn't sell anything except for writing books. everything was non profit over the years. He taught people how to be healthy. He had free excercise classes everyday in hawaii. He didn't "market" any pills or potions. he taught people to only eat natural foods made by God and to excersice. what a scammer huh. |
Island Member Username: Island
Post Number: 27 Registered: 01-2005
| Posted on Wednesday, February 21, 2007 - 1:54 pm: | |
The average fish in the Detroit River only lives 3.2 years, but begins to glow almost immediately. That water hasn't been treated at all, except with your everyday human and industrial by-products. I had an aquarium when I was a kid, which I filled with Detroit tap water. None of those fish ever had any cavities, which I attribute to the fluoride treatment. I offer no scientific documentation of any of this. However, there is a small white garage behind a house on the north side of 12 Mile, just west of the commercial property west of Northwestern in Southfield. The small, discretely marked Absopure tanker pulls in, closes the door, fills up and leaves, been doing it for years. |
Swiburn Member Username: Swiburn
Post Number: 60 Registered: 07-2006
| Posted on Monday, February 26, 2007 - 12:29 pm: | |
Yes, the water all comes out of the Great Lakes, but Nestle isn't paying the communities to get the water from the lakes like Aquafina does. |
Mikem Member Username: Mikem
Post Number: 3116 Registered: 10-2003
| Posted on Monday, February 26, 2007 - 12:47 pm: | |
quote:However, there is a small white garage behind a house on the north side of 12 Mile, just west of the commercial property west of Northwestern in Southfield. I was in the neighborhood yesterday and had to see it for myself. Sure enough, there's a large white garage big enough for a tanker truck to drive through. From a small doghouse-style shed on the west side of the garage, a large diameter pipe leads into the garage. Well water I presume? |
The_rock Member Username: The_rock
Post Number: 1590 Registered: 11-2003
| Posted on Monday, February 26, 2007 - 5:49 pm: | |
Having just read all these posts, I am scared to death. So I am now having my usual evening Southern Comfort, but this time on the rocks rather than face certain death by adding either a smidgeon of tap or bottled water. Thanks to all for rescuing me from certain oblivion. I might just have another SC for your help. Now where did I put those plasticized ice cubes? |
Cklwbig8 Member Username: Cklwbig8
Post Number: 114 Registered: 02-2005
| Posted on Monday, February 26, 2007 - 6:28 pm: | |
It's very simple .. drink distilled water. Fruits and veggies contain distilled water by nature. Rain and snow is distilled water. God gave us distilled water !!! |
Mikeg Member Username: Mikeg
Post Number: 633 Registered: 12-2005
| Posted on Monday, February 26, 2007 - 7:26 pm: | |
quote:Fruits and veggies contain distilled water by nature. Huh? Distillation is the evaporation and subsequent collection of a liquid by condensation. Plants contain water that is drawn from the soil through capillary action.
quote:Rain and snow is distilled water. Did you know that microscopic dust particles act as nuclei for the condensation process that occurs in clouds? |
Cklwbig8 Member Username: Cklwbig8
Post Number: 115 Registered: 02-2005
| Posted on Monday, February 26, 2007 - 7:53 pm: | |
yes Mikeg.. where does the soil get water from ? distilled water from the sky ! fruits and veggies do not contain tap water do they ? clouds once contained the planet's cleanest source of water. before the earth became polluted. |
Jimaz Member Username: Jimaz
Post Number: 1609 Registered: 12-2005
| Posted on Monday, February 26, 2007 - 7:59 pm: | |
quote:However, there is a small white garage behind a house on the north side of 12 Mile, just west of the commercial property west of Northwestern in Southfield. Is this the place?
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Mikem Member Username: Mikem
Post Number: 3117 Registered: 10-2003
| Posted on Monday, February 26, 2007 - 8:06 pm: | |
Yep. |
Digitaldom Member Username: Digitaldom
Post Number: 581 Registered: 08-2004
| Posted on Monday, February 26, 2007 - 8:46 pm: | |
Some one needs to get video footage of that.. holy crap.. LOL.. Are you sure it's not some dude who works for the company parking his truck for the night? |
Patrick Member Username: Patrick
Post Number: 4099 Registered: 10-2003
| Posted on Monday, February 26, 2007 - 8:58 pm: | |
Ok, so how does Aquafina compare with Fiji water? Apparently the folks running Fiji got their asses handed to them after some bullshit ad they ran claiming that their water wasn’t bottled in Cleveland. Folks in Cleveland had the water tested and found Arsenic in the Fiji stuff. http://money.cnn.com/galleries /2007/biz2/0701/gallery.101dum best_2007/20.html |
Harsensis Member Username: Harsensis
Post Number: 185 Registered: 07-2005
| Posted on Monday, February 26, 2007 - 9:38 pm: | |
That shed for Absopure is probably the company's source of mineral water since they use ground water for their source. If is was a spring water source I would imagine that there would be more trucks going in and out of there. |