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Renf
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Posted on Tuesday, February 20, 2007 - 4:31 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

The three homes in the city of Detroit listed below are, I believe, listed on registers of historic sites. However, I cannot find out much about them. Does anyone know where I might locate information about them? Thank you.

The Double House: 547-549 East Jefferson
Listed on the National Register of Historic
Sites in 1985.

Robson-Dodge Home 642 West Forest
I think this is listed on a register of
historic sites.

Zacharias House 669 Virginia Park
This is within the Virginia Park Historic
District that was added to the National
Register in 1980.
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Patrick
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Posted on Tuesday, February 20, 2007 - 4:47 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Try the Burton Collection. It may take a bit of time but they will have old clippings and info no doubt. Maybe even pictures.
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Exmotowner
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Posted on Wednesday, February 21, 2007 - 8:24 am:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

http://detroit1701.org/Zachari as%20House.html

GOOGLE IS SO AWSOME!
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Exmotowner
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Posted on Wednesday, February 21, 2007 - 8:26 am:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

http://detroit1701.org/Robson- Dodge.html
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Swiburn
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Posted on Wednesday, February 21, 2007 - 8:38 am:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

You could trace the Polk Directories back to the l890s or so to find out who Mr. Zacharias was. I know the professor who did the Website for the picture posted in the link, and he is not sure.
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Neilr
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Posted on Wednesday, February 21, 2007 - 9:54 am:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

There is a somewhat smaller twin of the Zacharias House in Windsor in the Walkerville neighborhood.
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Kathleen
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Posted on Wednesday, February 21, 2007 - 10:53 am:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

The Robson-Dodge House on W. Forest is where John Dodge and wife lived c. 1904-1906. (See some of the home and area's history here: http://dallyinthealley.com/his tory.html.)

From this house, as John and his brother Horace reaped the benefits of their entrepreneurship and investments in the early automobile industry, John and wife Matilda moved into their luxurious new house on E. Boston Blvd.

(Message edited by Kathleen on February 21, 2007)
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Pam
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Posted on Wednesday, February 21, 2007 - 11:10 am:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

quote:

GOOGLE IS SO AWSOME!



The original poster is one of the people who runs that 1701 site.
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Patrick
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Posted on Wednesday, February 21, 2007 - 12:28 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Wait, I thought Horace Dodge lived there?? Long time ago I had a post about preserving the carriage house. I guess someone actually had the blueprints to it and was trying to preserve it since it had been robbed of many of its bricks.
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Kathleen
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Posted on Wednesday, February 21, 2007 - 1:02 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Nope, the Forest Ave. house was definitely John's house. Maybe Horace rented from him?
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Mccarch
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Posted on Wednesday, February 21, 2007 - 2:15 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Kathleen, I think you have the Dodge boys mixed up. Horace and Anna lived for a number of years at 5472 Lincoln (gone) until 1904 when they moved to the existing house at 642 West Forest. They lived there until 1908. In 1909, they were listed as living in GP (with no address given), and moved into the first AK Rose Terrace in 1911.

John Dodge lived at 4742 Trumbull (gone) from 1894 to 1906, when he moved into his new mansion on East Boston; later, he married Matilda.
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Kathleen
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Posted on Wednesday, February 21, 2007 - 2:21 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Right, right....sorry! I shouldn't try to do this from memory while at work!! I've got all that same research in the files at home.

Thanks for the correction!!!
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Ray1936
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Posted on Wednesday, February 21, 2007 - 6:41 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Looks like A.H. Zacharias is Allen H. Zacharias according to the 1910 census. Living at 123 Virginia Park (old numbering system) with his wife Gertrude and no children. Occupation, Manager.

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Mikem
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Posted on Wednesday, February 21, 2007 - 9:12 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Allen Zacharias was the son of Peter Zacharias, who also lived on Virginia Park:
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PETER HARBINE ZACHARIAS. After many years devoted to the coal trade in Detroit Peter H. Zacharias retired from business and his remaining days were spent in the enjoyment of well earned rest. Death called him, however, November 4, 1919, at his home, 170 Virginia Park, when he was in his seventy-second year. He was a native son of Michigan, his birth having occurred at Erie, Monroe county, on the 6th of May, 1847, his parents being Mr. and Mrs. Peter A. Zacharias, who had seven sons, three of whom were soldiers of the Civil war. Two daughters of this family are still living: Mrs. W. P. Corbett and Mrs. Lucy A. Mason, both residents of Detroit.

The youthful days of Peter Harbine Zacharias were spent under the parental roof in Monroe county and there he pursued a public school education, passing through consecutive grades to the high school. In 1877 he went to California, where he remained for several years and then returned to the middle west, locating in Toledo, Ohio, there conducting a wholesale and retail coal business. While thus engaged he became interested in coal mines in southern Ohio and his business brought him frequently to Detroit, so that he came to recognize the better field of operations afforded in this city. This determined him to return to Michigan and he established his residence in Detroit, where he resided until called to his final rest. In the early period of his connection with the city he purchased many unimproved lots and afterward sold the property at the corner of Twentieth and Michigan avenues to the Michigan Central Railroad and the railroad company disposed of it to the firm of Parker & Webb. He was for twenty years identified with the coal trade in Detroit, developing the business to extensive proportions, having the largest coal yards in the city equipped with modern appliances. He was at the time also maintaining a downtown office in the McGraw building. In all business affairs he was thoroughly reliable and progressive and his carefully managed affairs brought to him a gratifying measure of prosperity.

In Toledo, Ohio, on the 26th of June, 1872, Mr. Zacharias was united in marriage to Miss Elizabeth E. Tillott, a daughter of William H. Tillott, a native of England, in which country the birth of Mrs. Zacharias also occurred. To this marriage were born two sons: Allen H., whose birth occurred February 12, 1875, in Ann Arbor, Michigan, and who is now one of the prominent business men of Lima, Ohio, being assistant to the president of the Garford Motor Truck Company. He wedded Gertrude Wiley, a daughter of Jefferson Wiley, in June, 1898; Frederick T., the younger, was born December 4, 1878, in California, and died September 4, 1896.

Mr. Zacharias was of the Presbyterian faith and at one time served as a trustee of the Trumbull Avenue Presbyterian church, while later he became a member of the Woodward Avenue church, his association therewith continuing to the time of his demise. He did everything in his power to promote the growth of the church and extend its influence and his life was ever governed by its high principles. In politics he was a republican, but never an aspirant for office. He was well known in Masonic circles as a member of Kilwinning Lodge, F. & A. M.; King Cyrus Chapter, E. A. M.; Detroit Commandery, No. 1, K. T.; and the Mystic Shrine. He was also active in organizing the Detroit Coal Exchange and served as president of that body for many years. His carefully directed business affairs enabled him to leave his family in comfortable financial circumstances and Mrs. Zacharias is now the owner of a number of fine residential properties in Detroit, from which she derives a gratifying annual income, enabling her to enjoy all of the comforts of life and many of its luxuries. She, too, is highly esteemed in Detroit, where her circle of friends is an extensive one.


170 Virginia Park (old numbering) is at the corner of 3rd, across the street and down a few houses from his son Allen at 123. The account above was written ~1921 and I take it from the plaque, the Allen Z. house was built in 1909. Not sure if Allen retained the residence while working in Lima.
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Ray1936
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Posted on Wednesday, February 21, 2007 - 11:33 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Can't find Allen or Gertrude in the 1920 census anywhere, but they turn up in 1930 in Oakland Township, Oakland county. He is in his 50s and retired. No one else appears in the household; would appear the marriage was without issue.

Always interesting to trace down these old Detroit "persons of interest"!
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Neilr
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Posted on Wednesday, February 21, 2007 - 11:44 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Detroit's 1906 Blue Book gives Mr. & Mrs. (nee Wiley) Allen Zacharias' address as 37 Smith Ave.
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Neilr
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Posted on Wednesday, February 21, 2007 - 11:59 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Detroit's 1956 Blue Book gives the Allen Zacharias' address as 761 N. Woodward, Birmingham. He belongs to the Detroit Boat Club and she's a member of the Society of Arts and Crafts and the Women's City Club of Detroit.

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