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Ccbatson
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Posted on Sunday, February 25, 2007 - 9:56 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

How foolish do they think the public is? 3 months without a contract, 4 months since one was promised (well, not really when you consider the slippery trial lawyer Clintonese language they used). Even more shocking....WHERE IS THE MEDIA???
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Peter
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Posted on Monday, February 26, 2007 - 3:48 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I thought they had reached an agreement awhile ago...
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Ccbatson
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Posted on Monday, February 26, 2007 - 4:53 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Not really...read the fine print, it is basically an agreement to agree on a future agreement.
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Ccbatson
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Posted on Monday, February 26, 2007 - 4:55 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Nope, read the fine print. It is an agreement to negotiate a contract, not a contract itself. Typical lawyerly BS.
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Ortho313
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Posted on Tuesday, February 27, 2007 - 3:13 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Its not a story. The last mention in the paper said the ACGME didn't care. There are no imminent consequences. When the players (DMC/WSU) say "its no big deal," there is no one with authority who can refute them.

I have no idea, but I think the MSU SOM decision is the current linchpin. Any word if the dean got a response after contacting MSU asking them not to come?
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Ccbatson
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Posted on Tuesday, February 27, 2007 - 9:46 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

No idea...only word of St. john as a new suitor throwing their hat in the ring for MSU.
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Jk_one
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Posted on Wednesday, February 28, 2007 - 1:28 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

From what we have heard is that the contract terms are executed but all the final revisions with Counsel takes an extensive amount of time. This isn't a simple contract based on all the complexities.

Why would the Dean ask MSU not to come to Detroit or use old Hutzel? Is WSU SOM really afraid of the Osteopathic Program? WSU asked for the same liberties do they not (want to shop other systems?). Speaking of politics, sounds like there is power in monopolies....Dean worried about some competition?
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Ccbatson
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Post Number: 124
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Posted on Wednesday, February 28, 2007 - 4:34 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

It would not be competition if the opposition wasn't concerned about it and worked towards beating their opponents, would it?

Who is the "We" you refer to in hearing about the current status? I have heard very different reports from middle level administrators and Physician faculty (at the DMC).
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Ortho313
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Posted on Sunday, March 04, 2007 - 3:44 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Don't know what this says about the progress of negotiations. Despite optimism and replies of "it takes a long time to actually finalize" there has not been as much as a draft shown to the physician group.

I assume the dean contacted MSU for exactly that reason, to let them know their presence would aversely affect WSU SOM's well... existence.

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DMC chief starts weight-loss plan
He's in diet center in Durham, N.C.

March 2, 2007

BY PATRICIA ANSTETT

FREE PRESS MEDICAL WRITER

Correction: This story should not have raised questions about whether Mike Duggan, chief executive officer of the Detroit Medical Center, would undergo bariatric surgery while attending a diet and exercise program at Duke University. Duggan said he is not having the surgery.

Mike Duggan, chief executive officer of the Detroit Medical Center, has entered an intensive, monthlong, weight-loss program at Duke University's Diet and Fitness Center. Spokeswoman Bridget Hurd confirmed Wednesday that Duggan left Feb. 23 for a stay in the acclaimed program in Durham, N.C. (www.cfl.duke.edu). Duggan did not respond Thursday to an interview request Hurd relayed to him.

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She also said she didn't know why Duggan chose Duke over his own medical center's weight-loss program at Harper University Hospital in Detroit.

About 1,500 people go through the Duke program each year. Participants spend the day exercising, eating nutritious meals and attending classes, but they can stay off campus, said Dr. Howard Eisenson, the center's director. One year later, 80% of the participants report they have kept off the weight they lost.
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Ccbatson
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Post Number: 128
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Posted on Sunday, March 04, 2007 - 10:19 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

It seems that the DMC is going full steam ahead pursuing other partners in violation of the intent of the agreement, if not the actual contract. Is WSU doing likewise? If they are not, they should be!!!

The DMC is playing hardball, if WSU SOM wants to survive they need to do likewise. If nothing else, that might hasten the contract process.
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56packman
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Posted on Sunday, March 04, 2007 - 11:00 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

If we were to care, could someone translate this TLA (three letter acronym) mish mash into English? It's like hearing military personnel talking about "work"
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Ccbatson
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Post Number: 129
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Posted on Monday, March 05, 2007 - 12:29 am: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

So sorry for the jargon...

DMC=Detroit Medical Center
WSU=Wayne State University
WSU SOM= Wayne State University School of Medicine.
MSU= Michigan State University.
MSU SOM= Michigan State University School of Medicine (allopathic, or MD...Medical Doctor degree)
MSU COM= Michigan State University College of Osteopathic Medicine (osteopathic, or DO...Doctor of Osteopathy).

I think that covers all of the acronyms, sorry again for the shorthand.
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Ccbatson
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Post Number: 130
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Posted on Monday, March 05, 2007 - 12:30 am: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

oops, one more, although it hasn't appeared in this thread...

ACGME=American College of Graduate Medical Education.
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Zephyrprocess
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Posted on Monday, March 05, 2007 - 5:59 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

(Actually, it's "Accreditation Council...", but regardless, that's who decides who gets to train residents.)
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Ccbatson
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Post Number: 131
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Posted on Monday, March 05, 2007 - 9:33 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Too true, my bad.

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