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Kraemerdesigngroup
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Posted on Thursday, March 01, 2007 - 1:30 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

All - in the past there were requests for additional views of the Griswold. Check out these great balconies and the full height glass in each unit. BK


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Tetsua
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Posted on Thursday, March 01, 2007 - 1:40 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Keep em coming Kraemer,

This will be a hell of a balcony when it's all said and done.
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Kenp
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Posted on Thursday, March 01, 2007 - 1:42 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I would love to live their. The first floor of the condos have double balconies. I wonder how much more those units are then the floors above.
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Kpm
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Posted on Thursday, March 01, 2007 - 1:47 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Excellent work, KDG! Can't wait to see floorplans, etc., on the website. They look impressive so far!
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Thejesus
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Posted on Thursday, March 01, 2007 - 1:48 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

oooo...those look sweet!!!...

I predeict those will be the most coveted living spaces in the city once they're finished...
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Korridorkid
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Posted on Thursday, March 01, 2007 - 2:25 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

KraemerDG- Have I told you lately, that I love you?

'Cause I do!
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Gistok
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Posted on Thursday, March 01, 2007 - 2:36 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Going off on a tangent here... I would think that most of the folks who own these would probably not have children. Last thing you would want is children playing by the railings.

I have vertigo, so I wouldn't be able to get any closer to the edge than that lady in the rendering! :-)
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Jt1
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Posted on Thursday, March 01, 2007 - 3:14 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

quote:

Last thing you would want is children playing by the railings.



Beats them playing in the street.
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Mackinaw
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Posted on Thursday, March 01, 2007 - 3:14 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Balconies are great, and this is the advantage that new construction downtown can have. Still, a renovated Broderick Tower, and/or Stott Tower or Book Tower residential conversion would be the most sought-after apartments downtown.
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Mind_field
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Posted on Thursday, March 01, 2007 - 4:41 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Speaking of the Broderick, does anyone have the latest info on when construction will start on that renovation?
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Southen
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Posted on Thursday, March 01, 2007 - 5:41 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Thats fantastic. I am really looking forward to seeing this go up.
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Rbdetsport
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Posted on Thursday, March 01, 2007 - 8:51 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

The Broderick Tower is supposed to start construction by the summer, but I am sure KDG would know better since they designed the units and renovations.
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Fareastsider
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Posted on Thursday, March 01, 2007 - 9:03 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

How occupied is the Stott tower anyone know?
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Charlottepaul
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Posted on Thursday, March 01, 2007 - 9:15 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

someone asked this recently and I think that the answer was that it was between 60 and 70%
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Detroitstar
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Posted on Thursday, March 01, 2007 - 9:42 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I thought Stott was as low as 20%?
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Bulletmagnet
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Posted on Thursday, March 01, 2007 - 9:50 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

It looks like SuperMax to me.
http://www.supermaxed.com/imag es/Florence%20Supermax.jpg
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Spiritofdetroit
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Posted on Thursday, March 01, 2007 - 11:14 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

noooo, the Stott is not 60 or 70%. Downtown as a whole (at least the occuppied business buildings) might not even be 60%
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Lmichigan
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Posted on Thursday, March 01, 2007 - 11:48 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Yeah, the Book and Stott have some of the lowest occupancies from what I hear.

Spirit, you are exaggerating quite a bit. Of the leasable office space downtown 26-27% of it is vacant as of the fourth quarter of 2006 according to CBRE. It's been at or around this number for years now. In fact Metro Detroit's office market has been flat/soft for awhile now.

According to the report Troy is reporting a 26% vacany, Southfield a 28% vacancy...The only office markets doing even half way decent are Auburn Hills (12.68% vacancy), and Farmington/West Bloomfield (15% vacancy).

(Message edited by lmichigan on March 01, 2007)
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Rjlj
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Posted on Friday, March 02, 2007 - 12:30 am: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

What is your source Rbdetsport about the Broderick?
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Spiritofdetroit
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Posted on Friday, March 02, 2007 - 12:32 am: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Lmichigan,

From the numbers I collected, most buildings were not at 75% occupancy in Sept
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Lmichigan
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Posted on Friday, March 02, 2007 - 12:51 am: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

What's the source of your numbers? Then, we can judge whose are better. I hope the sources aren't isn't heresay.
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Spiritofdetroit
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Posted on Friday, March 02, 2007 - 12:59 am: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Ive posted a lot of the numbers before. They came straight from the mouth of the repsective building owner or management group
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Queensfinest
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Posted on Friday, March 02, 2007 - 10:26 am: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

None of those commercial vacancy rates mentioned are necessarily good. Better than completely vacant though I guess. Once you're up to 95% occupied then some of this continued new construction in the city or suburbs can be justified.
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Detroit313
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Posted on Friday, March 02, 2007 - 11:40 am: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Good design, keeps with the pattern of the area. When are they set to go on sale?313
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Rbdetsport
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Posted on Friday, March 02, 2007 - 3:51 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Rjlj, I was not acting like I was an insider. That is just the projected time I have heard from many people.
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Rjlj
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Posted on Friday, March 02, 2007 - 4:46 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Understood Rbdetsport. Just wanted to know where this information was coming from. Any more details would be nice.
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Lowell
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Posted on Friday, March 02, 2007 - 10:13 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Almost gone...


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