Post Number: 3729
|Posted on Saturday, March 03, 2007 - 11:55 pm: || |
In the Balduck Park Hill Thread (far east side park)... the discussion went off on a tangent of Grosse Pointers attending Finney High School in the past.
Well parts of the far east side near the Grosse Pointe border (between Balduck Park and the eastern city limits 2 blocks east of Moross) have a Grosse Pointe mailing address.
Even though the area is technically Detroit, mail envelopes to these locations bear the name "Grosse Pointe".
Are there any other areas of Detroit that have non-Detroit mailing addresses?
Post Number: 2687
|Posted on Saturday, March 03, 2007 - 11:59 pm: || |
The CompUSA and Office Depot and the Dearborn Holiday Inn. There are lots...
Post Number: 230
|Posted on Sunday, March 04, 2007 - 3:14 am: || |
I think there's also areas on the west side that you can address the city as Detroit even though now it's technically Redford Hgts or Redford and have it delivered. It's the inverse of what you're asking, but I believe it's along the same lines.
Post Number: 191
|Posted on Sunday, March 04, 2007 - 11:42 am: || |
I heard that if you live in Detroit in the 48236 zip, your insurance rates are cheaper than elsewhere in the city. Is this true?
Post Number: 188
|Posted on Sunday, March 04, 2007 - 12:15 pm: || |
technically Redford Heights????what is Redford Heights
Post Number: 3140
|Posted on Sunday, March 04, 2007 - 12:55 pm: || |
Gistok, the opposite is true as well. If you live in the GP portion of 48236 you can use Detroit as the city and still get your mail delivered properly. It all goes through the Grosse Pointe "Station".
Post Number: 672
|Posted on Sunday, March 04, 2007 - 3:27 pm: || |
Zip code boundaries don't always follow political or city boundaries. In the cases mentioned above, the zip code overlap into another city. Another example is Plymouth. The city is very small and it is surrounded by Plymouth TWP. The zip code boundary more than likely encompasses the entire township as well as the city. The mailing city is Plymouth, MI even though you live in Plymouth TWP.
At USPS, you can search for all the zip codes in a city. Search for a zip code to find the acceptable city names. http://zip4.usps.com/zip4/zcl_ 3_results.jsp
Post Number: 177
|Posted on Sunday, March 04, 2007 - 5:12 pm: || |
I lived for a spell on the last block of Alter Road, the stretch south of Jefferson that leads to Windmill Pointe. I got a break on my car insurance because of the zip code that was mostly in the Grosse Pointes. This was in the '80s before Alter Rd was blocked off at the Windmill Pointe Park.
The downside of living there was that there was nothing nearby to walk to in terms of shopping, a bar, or a restaurant, and it seemed like it took forever to get to a freeway.
Post Number: 70
|Posted on Monday, March 05, 2007 - 8:29 am: || |
48239 - the Rouge Park area share zip code with Redford Twp.
Post Number: 147
|Posted on Monday, March 05, 2007 - 8:48 am: || |
48225 - Detroit and Harper Woods share a Zip Code.
Post Number: 47
|Posted on Monday, March 05, 2007 - 9:29 am: || |
You can address an envelope as "Mars" as the city and as long as the street address is correct for the zip code it will get there.
I'm in Astoria, NY. I get mail addressed to the following: Astoria, Long Island City, Queens, and LIC.
I use LIC as a return address since it's quicker to write. It really makes no difference as long as you have a good address and zip.
Post Number: 3737
|Posted on Monday, March 05, 2007 - 10:28 am: || |
Well that doesn't always work.
I once had a check sent to me (from Boston) and they addressed it as "ST. CLAIR, MI 48081".
Well unfortunately I live in St. Clair Shores, and not St. Clair, which is about 40 miles away. And the envelope was returned to sender as undeliverable, even though the address and zip were otherwise correct, only the city name was incorrect.
Post Number: 2
|Posted on Monday, March 05, 2007 - 5:41 pm: || |
I live on the first street north of Carpenter in Detroit (48212) between Conant and Jos. Campau. Half of my mail comes to "Detroit, MI 48212" and half comes to "Hamtramck, MI 48212." It all gets here though
Post Number: 719
|Posted on Tuesday, March 06, 2007 - 3:03 pm: || |
The USPS zip codes beginning with 482 are usually Detroit zones, and are generally thought of in that way, but there are exceptions. (Highland Park, Hamtramck, the Grosse Pointes, River Rouge, Ferndale, Harper Woods, Oak Park, and Redford.) As regards addressing, and delivery, of the mail, no distinction is made, and Frumoasa's post is a perfect example. If the street address and the zip code are correct, the USPS is uneffected by the matter of whether the sender called it Hamtramck or Detroit, Ferndale or Detroit, etc. Gistok's post, however, refers to a long-standing problem, wherein both senders AND USPS workers seem unable to get it through their heads that St. Clair and St. Clair Shores are ENTIRELY different destinations. Another issue is the frequent use of the term "Brownstown," attached to a variety of zip codes. Still, if the street address and zip code are accurate, no problem is caused by that issue, either.
Post Number: 184
|Posted on Thursday, March 08, 2007 - 3:51 am: || |
It is a very common practice for smaller communities, as aforementioned, to do this. For example, Lathrup Village residents write "Southfield" with frequency, although others opt for "Lathrup Village" for the economic class distinction.
Also, though not directly related, I find it interesting that my household receives both the Detroit and Southfield-Lathrup Village White Pages and Yellow Pages. I live on the south side of Eight Mile within a block of the city-limits with Southfield.
Does anyone know if suburban Yellow and White Pages are commonly delivered in other "border" areas of the city? If so, how many blocks deep into the city are they delivered?
Interesting to note, as well...when a "tornado warning" is issued, the tornado sirens of Oakland County can be heard with greater volume than the tornado sirens of the Wayne County side. I figure if I'm close enough to hear the siren that I'm close enough to potentially encounter threatening weather.
All this being said, it can sometimes feel like borders overlap and merge into each other. It proves that this region truly is more interconnected and intertwined than we believe we are. The people are more divided than the borders are.
Post Number: 2039
|Posted on Thursday, March 08, 2007 - 6:40 am: || |
Gistok is right...having the right street address and ZIP Code don't always work. I once accidentally addressed an envelope Berkley, CA 48073, when of course, I intended it to say Berkley, MI 48073. It went all the way to California before being returned to me 6 weeks later! Good thing it wasn't something super important.
Post Number: 725
|Posted on Thursday, March 08, 2007 - 6:20 pm: || |
Gistok's experience was a total failure on the part of the USPS. Gistok says that the only error was the city name. That lone error should not throw off the automated sorters, which should respond to that 48081, sort it into other 48081, with the result being that the letter should have been dispatched out to SCS with all the other 48081. Assuming that those events occurred, the ball should not have been fumbled so close to the goal line. No way, especially given the fact that this particular city-name error is common, and certainly cannot be unfamiliar to the folks out at the 48081 office who, also certainly, should be familiar with the street address. There is no respectable explanation for Gistok's mail being returned as undeliverable.
Post Number: 4871
|Posted on Thursday, March 08, 2007 - 7:19 pm: || |
Oh well!! S**T Happens.
Post Number: 2535
|Posted on Thursday, March 08, 2007 - 9:38 pm: || |
48230 (GP west of 48236) can also be addressed "Detroit." This happened often at my parent's GP address.
Post Number: 88
|Posted on Thursday, March 08, 2007 - 9:51 pm: || |
Palmer Woods 48203 is a Highland Park zip code
Post Number: 728
|Posted on Friday, March 09, 2007 - 9:47 pm: || |
I may have bored Jams with my huffy-toned, long-winded indictment... Spitcoff, Palmer Woods, like Rosedale Park, may be what the neighborhood is called, but it is not an actual city name, as I think you already are aware, and I would suggest NOT using it as an address, although the reasons for wanting to distance one's self from most of the rest of Highland Park are, indeed, quite compelling.
Post Number: 868
|Posted on Monday, March 12, 2007 - 1:26 am: || |
somewhat off topic but responsive to the post about sirens, I was surprised to learn recently that the Oakland Country prosecutor has charging jurisdiction to Seven Mile.