  56packman Member Username: 56packman Post Number: 1067 Registered: 12-2005 |
you can see what it was--where was it?  | ||
Warrenite84 Member Username: Warrenite84 Post Number: 46 Registered: 01-2007 |
There was a United Shirt at Lafyette and Griswold, where the coney island restaurants are. Unless they had another store, this might be the place. | ||
Gtat44 Member Username: Gtat44 Post Number: 47 Registered: 02-2007 |
There was a United Shirt at the corner of 7 & Gratiot, (northeast corner) but from what I remember the Cunningham's was where McDonalds now stands. | ||
Kathleen Member Username: Kathleen Post Number: 2019 Registered: 10-2003 |
I'm thinking this is on Griswold between Michigan Ave. and State St., just below the David Stott Bldg., where there once was a Cunningham's store. | ||
Mikem Member Username: Mikem Post Number: 3141 Registered: 10-2003 |
1940 locations:   | ||
Mikem Member Username: Mikem Post Number: 3142 Registered: 10-2003 |
A few possibilities where the addresses are very close: 13600 Fenkell 7300 Grand RIver 10761 Grand River 17101 Livernois 7731 E Seven Mile 6558 Woodward However, it looks like a downtown location considering the building in the background:  | ||
Bulletmagnet Member Username: Bulletmagnet Post Number: 95 Registered: 01-2007 |
The one thing I have noticed over the years in Detroit is the light poles. It seemed that different ones are used depending on the street stature. I don’t know if it helps, but a downtown local most likely. - Bullet | ||
Kathleen Member Username: Kathleen Post Number: 2021 Registered: 10-2003 |
We were downtown earlier this afternoon and checked out the former Griswold location of Cunningham's and determined that while the building looks very similar, it probably isn't the same building. | ||
Gtat44 Member Username: Gtat44 Post Number: 48 Registered: 02-2007 |
Mikem, Can you blow up the street sign on the light pole at all? Gtat | ||
Psip Member Username: Psip Post Number: 1496 Registered: 04-2005 |
Gtat44, the picture quality is so bad, you can not make anything out of the street sign, not even how many letters are on it. Its just a blur. Now if Packman were to provide a higher resolution scan, we could find the location. I was leaning to Woodward/Grand Blvd. but that didn't pan out. This is a tuffy. | ||
Charlottepaul Member Username: Charlottepaul Post Number: 627 Registered: 10-2006 |
If one can make out the 'no left turn' sign in that low res. photo, one with twice as good of a resolution might reveal the street names on that sign. | ||
Urbanize Member Username: Urbanize Post Number: 61 Registered: 02-2007 |
I was leaning towards the Van Dyke/7 Mile area (the street light which are still along it today have the same design), but the high dense building in the far left threw me off. (Message edited by Urbanize on March 04, 2007) | ||
56packman Member Username: 56packman Post Number: 1068 Registered: 12-2005 |
OK--good work all, Here's the whole picture, before I cropped just the demolished building out of it. this was before the nightclub days, when it was known as the Palms.  perhaps we might recognize it better if I photoshopped in a bunch of underage girls standing in line out front in the dead of winter with no coats on, arms folded in front, warming their boobs. on second thought, let's not. | ||
99gprix Member Username: 99gprix Post Number: 12 Registered: 01-2007 |
Thats gotta be downtown, you can see the Kales off to the right in the picture  | ||
Kathleen Member Username: Kathleen Post Number: 2027 Registered: 10-2003 |
So this was a test, 56 packman? Yes, the building in question sat on the west side of Woodward between the State and Fox theatres, right where the Fox Theatre turnaround is. | ||
56packman Member Username: 56packman Post Number: 1071 Registered: 12-2005 |
Kathleen--yes, it was a test of sorts. A case of "how soon we forget" | ||
Fury13 Member Username: Fury13 Post Number: 1410 Registered: 10-2003 |
"Fox Theatre turnaround" = Columbia Street, right? Do the Ilitches own West Columbia now? I thought that was a public right-of-way. | ||
Gistok Member Username: Gistok Post Number: 3741 Registered: 08-2004 |
That site is where Mike Ilitch was going to put his "Agora" (Macedonian/Greek for "Marketplace") of shops and restaurants down a closed Columbia Ave. And where the Cunningham's was is where the original location for Detroit's Hard Rock Cafe was going to go (also announced by Ilitch). But none of those announced ideas (circa 1994) ever came to fruition... | ||
Chitaku Member Username: Chitaku Post Number: 1229 Registered: 03-2006 |
Whats with the street by Fox that is fenced off? Total BS | ||
56packman Member Username: 56packman Post Number: 1072 Registered: 12-2005 |
It's been that way since 1988 and you are just noticing? must not have needed it. | ||
Jjaba Member Username: Jjaba Post Number: 4934 Registered: 11-2003 |
56packman wins the jjaba prize for being difficult. As soon as you gave us the whole photo, it was so obvious, even Ray Charles could find that one. Good work Kathleen. Drum roll for Kathleen and her post 2027 makes her a double centurian worthy of a jjaba prize. Post your email Kathleen for jjaba prize. jjaba, on the Woodward PCC car passing and waving near Cunninghams. jjaba going for haircut in horsie chair at Hudsons. How many more stops mommy? | ||
Kathleen Member Username: Kathleen Post Number: 2029 Registered: 10-2003 |
Thanks, jjaba!! I appreciate the sentiments!! Look for an email; I've got yours from some past correspondence. | ||
Jams Member Username: Jams Post Number: 4854 Registered: 10-2003 |
56packman, You trickster. The question that comes to mind, when were they demolished? I worked at Press Picture Services, the furthest west, ground floor retail space in the Fox Building on Columbia late 76 - early 77 and I really can't place those buildings, although I vividly remember the last house on the south side of Columbia in the middle of the block of parking lot. I guess we should have photographed the neighborhood, but without paying customers???? | ||
56packman Member Username: 56packman Post Number: 1073 Registered: 12-2005 |
Jams--I took a friend from out of town into the Fox in February of 1987 and we went to a huge barber shop in that building on that trip, so I know it was still standing as of then. I went back to the Fox several times during the renovation, took another friend from out of town to see the Fox in June or July of 1988 and everything there looked strange and desolate. Woodward ave. was torn out, the commercial block across from the Fox was demolished, there was no Marquee or sidewalk on the fox building, the building just stood in a field of rubble. I noticed then that the Cunningham’s/United shirt building(s) were gone. It was pointed out that you could now see the "C. Howard Crane, architect" inscription on the side of the Francis Palms building (State theatre bldg). So the short answer is in 1988 it came down. So many times I saw things and didn't have a camera | ||
Gistok Member Username: Gistok Post Number: 3756 Registered: 08-2004 |
What really threw me for a loop on this pic was the building in the background. With what appears as "heavy rustication", I thought it was the Tobin Building on the corner of Broadway & Gratiot. But that "rustication" was more soot than any architectural motive, and when Chuck Forbes cleaned up the Francis Palms Building, the rustication became less apparent. | ||
Jams Member Username: Jams Post Number: 4856 Registered: 10-2003 |
Damn, I can't remember a Cunningham's yet I remember the hookers on John R and Elizabeth. For the last five years I've walked the blocks between GCP and Warren trying to remember the various shops that at one time existed. Thanks to people like jjaba, I've been able to place places like the Bagel where the blueberry blintzes were probably better in my mind,than they actually were. The used bookstores on Woodward with the musty smell that hit you when you opened the door and found a tome you barely remembered as a must read my trips up Woodward having lunch in Downtown with my girlfriend to my classes at WSU or a free day visiting one of the museums. | ||
Bob_cosgrove Member Username: Bob_cosgrove Post Number: 469 Registered: 03-2005 |
If you were around in the 1950's, you'll remember the old joke about the United Shirt Company. They had to turn off theirb lighted sign when the "R" went out. Bob Cosgrove | ||
Jimaz Member Username: Jimaz Post Number: 1649 Registered: 12-2005 |
Gistok, about this "Tobin Building on the corner of Broadway & Gratiot." Can you offer any more information about that? Specific location at that intersection? Is it somehow related to Ben Tobin? | ||
56packman Member Username: 56packman Post Number: 1075 Registered: 12-2005 |
Jams--here is the Fox, the way you and I (and others who were downtown in the 70's)remember it.  day after Christmas, 1977 | ||
Gistok Member Username: Gistok Post Number: 3759 Registered: 08-2004 |
Jimaz, the only thing I know about the Tobin Building was the sign on the side of the building with its' name. It was on the NE corner of that Gawd-awful confusing intersection. (On the same side of Broadway as the Opera House). Sorry I can't be more specific. | ||
Urbanize Member Username: Urbanize Post Number: 82 Registered: 02-2007 |
OOOOOO, that's next to the now State Theatre. |
