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Urbanize
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Post Number: 210
Registered: 02-2007
Posted on Saturday, March 17, 2007 - 6:27 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Does anyone on the site know about the history of this shopping center. If so, could you please inform me on it?
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Harpernottingham
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Posted on Saturday, March 17, 2007 - 6:33 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Yeah ... steer clear of it.
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Urbanize
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Post Number: 211
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Posted on Saturday, March 17, 2007 - 6:41 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Well I already know that, it's loiter central.
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Caldogven
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Posted on Saturday, March 17, 2007 - 7:28 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

In the early 50's it was just an overgrown empty lot. Every year a carnival would set up there for about a week. When they developed it the main store was Sam's, which later became Federal,s.
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Maxcarey
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Posted on Saturday, March 17, 2007 - 8:07 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

There's a Forman Mills there now.
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Urbanize
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Post Number: 221
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Posted on Saturday, March 17, 2007 - 8:13 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I know that too Maxcarey.

Msybe I'm not being clear. I want to know the background of the shopping center, how the shopping environment has changed, and if you can, what retail tenants did they have.
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Detroitplanner
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Post Number: 1095
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Posted on Saturday, March 17, 2007 - 10:06 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Wasn't it home to one of the original Kmart Stores at one time?
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56packman
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Post Number: 1126
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Posted on Saturday, March 17, 2007 - 11:58 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

The shopping center was developed on what was an empty field next to the Briggs manufacturing plant that Chrysler bought as part of their purchase of Briggs in December of 1953. in aerial photos from the 40's the field is empty. In a 1954 photo(the latest I have) the first store, a Kroger supermarket is in place and open and there are visible footings being poured for the sections of the center to the south of the Kroger. What is now the big and tall shop on the north end was built sometime later.




Conner E Warren ctr const.
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Margarite
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Posted on Sunday, March 18, 2007 - 11:01 am: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Husband and I and another couple spent many evenings at Francel's, a bar that was located in the shopping center. That would have been sometime during the early to mid 60's.
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Waxx
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Post Number: 88
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Posted on Monday, March 19, 2007 - 1:09 am: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Growing up in the early 80s I remember going to Kroger on the Conner side of the mall, Kingsway on the Warren side of the mall, Kinney shoes, S.S. Kresge's in between as well as the original Francel's. There was a Firestone on the other side of that intersection-it's a miniature mall now-it looks good but being a longtime resident of the outskirts of that area, I very seldom shop there. It may look good, but it doesn't have the same flair that it once did in the 80s and before. So 'loiter central' as urbanize would call it, steer clear of it to quote harpernottingham. If you don't go there much, don't go now. You really ain't missin' much.
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56packman
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Post Number: 1132
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Posted on Monday, March 19, 2007 - 7:38 am: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Warren and Conner, before anything was there


W&C


The shopping center sign, with the projects across the street

W&C too


from WSU virtual Motor City
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Ordinary
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Post Number: 158
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Posted on Monday, March 19, 2007 - 9:49 am: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I had a friend who worked at an A&P store that used to be there. He said he regularly found packages that had been opened, partially eaten, and then reclosed. I think I saw another post where they called that grazing. He also said that there were a few times when he found human poo in the aisles.
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Waxx
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Posted on Monday, March 19, 2007 - 10:48 am: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

56Packman, I love the pix. Hey Ordinary, I forgot about the A&P that was on Mack and Conner.
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Bulletmagnet
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Posted on Tuesday, March 20, 2007 - 6:03 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Here are a few shots as it looks today:
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http://farm1.static.flickr.com /168/428527269_78371aebdd_b.jp g
http://farm1.static.flickr.com /147/428527240_8f4b217f74_b.jp g
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Urbanize
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Post Number: 272
Registered: 02-2007
Posted on Tuesday, March 20, 2007 - 6:07 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Would of been nicer if they'd showed the other end of the Plaza and the new extension they made.
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Fury13
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Post Number: 1449
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Posted on Tuesday, March 20, 2007 - 6:27 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

"Would of been nicer..."

Would of?
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Urbanize
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Post Number: 273
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Posted on Tuesday, March 20, 2007 - 6:44 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Could of. Thank you for correcting me Fury13.
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Dabirch
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Posted on Tuesday, March 20, 2007 - 6:52 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I think fury was leaning towards: "would've" or "would have".
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Buyamerican
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Posted on Tuesday, March 20, 2007 - 6:53 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Federal's Department Store was there. Cupids Drive-In was on the other side of Conner at Warren.
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Urbanize
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Post Number: 275
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Posted on Tuesday, March 20, 2007 - 7:49 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I do want to bleed in this thread a bit. What about 7 Days? I'm aware they burned down and moved to their location on H-W and Kelly. Anyway, I remember that retro sign they had before they changed sometime around '01 or '02. Anyone have thh history behind it?
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Pgn421
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Posted on Wednesday, March 21, 2007 - 6:53 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

It is the first strip mall, that was born in the U.S.
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Fury13
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Post Number: 1461
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Posted on Thursday, March 22, 2007 - 11:31 am: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I think fury was leaning towards: "would've" or "would have".

Exactamundo. Would've, would have, could've, could have. You're trying to creating a past-tense contraction there (or maybe you're just trying to be irritating by employing incorrect usage).

It's NEVER "would of" or "could of" (unless you delight in sounding uneducated or "street"). Yeah, it sounds like "would of" (or "could of") when you verbalize it, but it's incorrect to write it that way. It's a pet peeve of mine, I guess.

Now, I'm sure that more folks will start doing it... just to piss me off.
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Urbanize
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Post Number: 307
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Posted on Thursday, March 22, 2007 - 11:42 am: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

"Now, I'm sure that more folks will start doing it... just to piss me off."

You're right Fury. Not trying to be rude, but this is a public discussion site where that no one really pays attention to in terms of "head officials" on the internet, not the deemer of your life.

Also, it's not proper English to say "folks either. That is an improper country word for people, you know, like that word we call "aint'"
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Professorscott
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Post Number: 273
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Posted on Thursday, March 22, 2007 - 12:08 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

We folks ain't sure you two would of hijacked this thread with you're discussion on English.
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Fury13
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Post Number: 1463
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Posted on Thursday, March 22, 2007 - 3:28 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Like I said, Urbanize: "...unless you delight in sounding uneducated or 'street.'"

"Folks" is perfectly proper. "Peeps" isn't. Look it up.

There is no correlation between "folks" and "ain't."

It amazes me how many people ("people," not "ppl") think good spelling and halfway decent grammar are no longer important. That attitude is probably ("probably," not "prolly") a by-product of the casual writing style so prevalent on the Internet. There are misspelled signs in public view everywhere too; you never would have ("would have," not "would of") seen that 15 or 20 years ago. We're becoming a nation of dummies.
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14509glenfield
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Posted on Thursday, March 22, 2007 - 3:56 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Wha' happen to the thread? Skip it momentarily. Ok...Ok... we're talking Warren & Conner. A few miles away was Manz Field. Dimensions larger than Tiger Stadium. Under the lights. Any memories? I played ball there.
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Fury13
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Posted on Thursday, March 22, 2007 - 4:02 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

OK... hey, I remember the Big Bear supermarket on Warren near Conner. I had relatives on Gray St., just south of Warren.

I recall the Warren-Conner shopping center as very popular in the early to mid '60s. It drew people from far beyond that immediate neighborhood.
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Urbanize
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Post Number: 310
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Posted on Thursday, March 22, 2007 - 8:30 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I'm sure Grosse Pointers and Morningsiders made a trip there too.
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Urbanize
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Posted on Friday, April 06, 2007 - 12:11 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

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