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Belleislerunner
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Post Number: 293
Registered: 12-2003
Posted on Sunday, March 18, 2007 - 9:01 am: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I need to get a job with this church. The pastor gets to live in a nice $4 million house.

Do they kick people out if they don't tithe? Who would be silly enough to give their money to fund someone else's extravagant lifestyle?

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Rjk
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Post Number: 646
Registered: 11-2003
Posted on Sunday, March 18, 2007 - 10:06 am: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =qxqRN5vjDHQ

I was just watching this video the other day on Peter Popoff.

I can see why some of these crooks need all kinds of security where they live. I'd like to give some of them a good pummeling myself.
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Gannon
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Post Number: 8563
Registered: 12-2003
Posted on Sunday, March 18, 2007 - 10:44 am: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

The ONLY way to get rid of charlatans is to eliminate the tax benefits.

Churches should be taxed, as with all profitable businesses.

Guidelines need be established...this is clearly beyond reasonable.
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Jeduncan
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Post Number: 67
Registered: 11-2006
Posted on Tuesday, March 20, 2007 - 4:33 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I completely agree with Gannon.

I'd like to watch this gluttonous piece of schnit pastor try to read the book of Job without his eyeballs melting, because "humble" to this guy obviously means "take everyone for everything they have, and keep it for yourself."

There is no reason any church, no matter how big, should spend that much on a freakin' PARSONAGE. There comes a point where a church becomes a business. i.e. DWO, Northridge, etc... (Northridge has a book store and a COFFEE SHOP in it, and hosts myriad concerts and conventions (for a fee). Come on, there's no reason it should be called a church and given tax breaks.

I say put the pastor in a 1,500 square foot home. Plenty large enough.

but this particular pastor, put him in a cardboard box, eat his firstborn, and take away all his clothes...

hehe

sorry, got a little carried away.

(Message edited by jeduncan on March 20, 2007)
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Gannon
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Post Number: 8638
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Posted on Tuesday, March 20, 2007 - 5:07 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

How do you know his firstborn will taste any good? Probably need some A-1 sauce with that.

My father's neighbor in Dearborn has been a DWO faithful for a l-o-n-g while now, and she couldn't figure how I didn't respond to her claiming me as her man.

Guess her faith wasn't strong enough. Heh.


That prosperity dialogue is SO distracting from good, and those huge churches that seek to create an entire isolated xtian experience will blow to pieces like EVERY group that sought to remove themselves from encountering the full world.


IF they seek only to create home churches, and eliminate the reliance on going to church...they are actually doing their flock a service, preparing them for a sustainable spiritual future.

IF they are simply trying to get all the other christians to come with itching ears into their building, at the expense of other churches...then they are likely playing for the other team.


I haven't trusted them for years and years, even back to when they were called Fairlane Assembly...a sister church to the little non-denominational I used to go to at the corner of Edmund Place and Woodward. It was called The Church in the City, founded by Gary Wilkerson...and used to be affiliated with the Assemblies until the son of the Cross & the Switchblade pastor David realized he couldn't FIND candidates for eldership in NYC who weren't divorced.

The Assemblies of God take a HARSH line on divorcees and others seen to have broken some 'law' in the NT. They take a harsh line on many things, which is why I don't cross their thresholds willingly. That Revival Tabernacle in the old Crim Porno theater up on Woodard and Six Mile is part of this family tree as well.

Fairlane's board of directors had some meglomaniacs who never learned how Jesus acted, so WWJD was lost on them. They've had trouble with their pastors for years and years. Different ones, too, so it must be a spiritual thing...if I'm not mistaken they were founded by that fellow who got caught 'looking' at hookers...cannot remember his name, he was a busy church founder for the Assembly of God for a long while. Not James Bakker, the other guy...the cryer.

Doesn't mean that good doesn't get done in the Assembly churches, I came to meet the Holy Spirit there...but they have been puzzled for years why they get SO many converts but their attendance numbers don't grow!

Mature Christians usually just move on from their fundy misunderstandings. Plus, they teach Pre-trib Rapture as if it were gospel...they could possibly be setting up entire generations of weak xtians for a huge crisis of faith should we experience troubles that look like tribulation.


I'd LOVE to get use of that old Church-in-the-City building on Woodward...it would make a great music and video production company headquarters and studio. Who's got a spare couple hundred grand laying around?!
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Jeduncan
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Post Number: 68
Registered: 11-2006
Posted on Tuesday, March 20, 2007 - 5:19 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Jimmy Swaggert, or something like that... the hooker enthusiast, that is.


I think DWO would better be titled, "The Church of 700 Club presents: Donald Trump."
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Gannon
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Post Number: 8643
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Posted on Tuesday, March 20, 2007 - 5:33 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

That's the guy, knew it was another Jimmy, couldn't find it in my head...although I could see his face.

My psyche blocks things that trouble me...self-defense!
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Michmeister
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Posted on Tuesday, March 20, 2007 - 6:31 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

What does wwjd mean?
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Jeduncan
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Post Number: 69
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Posted on Tuesday, March 20, 2007 - 6:38 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

lol, is that a serious question?
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Gannon
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Post Number: 8654
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Posted on Tuesday, March 20, 2007 - 6:39 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

What Would Yeshua Do
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Sknutson
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Posted on Tuesday, March 20, 2007 - 6:44 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

quote:

Who would be silly enough to give their money to fund someone else's extravagant lifestyle?



Perhaps all of those folks who send their $$$$ to Falwell, Robertson, et.al. And then again, there is the Pope and his famous vow of poverty.
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Hybridy
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Registered: 08-2006
Posted on Tuesday, March 20, 2007 - 7:02 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

hey, brainwashing is hard work
they best be able to go bed down in the suburbs "behind gates" at night

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