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Dede313
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Posted on Wednesday, March 21, 2007 - 10:04 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

It just irritates me when people say datroit..we are not french people...
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Kronprinz
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Posted on Wednesday, March 21, 2007 - 10:12 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

dehh -droit
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Livernoisyard
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Posted on Wednesday, March 21, 2007 - 10:17 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Who cares (gives a shit) how New Orleans, Detroit, Louisville, or Milwaukee are pronounced? There is no one way.
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Lmichigan
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Posted on Wednesday, March 21, 2007 - 10:31 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I say it a lot of different ways. It's never the same. Sometimes, it's Di-troit, sometimes it's Duh-troit, sometimes it's Dee-troit...etc. I use the first two the most, though.
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Milwaukee
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Posted on Wednesday, March 21, 2007 - 10:32 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Dee-troit
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Jimg
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Posted on Wednesday, March 21, 2007 - 10:41 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Sometimes say "Deetrite".
Look, if this issue was Important, NDavies would have chimed in with the correct pron.
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Barnesfoto
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Posted on Wednesday, March 21, 2007 - 10:46 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Duh-troit. thanks for asking.
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Lilpup
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Posted on Wednesday, March 21, 2007 - 10:47 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

generally, traditionally speaking:

Deh-troit (or even Duh-troit) is from those whose families have older roots here

DEE-troit is a Southern influenced affectation

Deh-troy-IT is from Ontario

Day-twa is the proper French
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Jimaz
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Posted on Wednesday, March 21, 2007 - 10:50 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

To me it always sounded like Coleman Young pronounced it Dee-tro-it, 3 syllables. Then again, yeah, does it matter?
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Fury13
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Posted on Wednesday, March 21, 2007 - 10:55 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

dih-TROIT. Accent on the second syllable. If you pronounce it differently, your family's probably only been here a couple of generations (in other words, you're a newbie).
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Rrl
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Posted on Wednesday, March 21, 2007 - 11:07 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Actually LivernoisYd, Milwaukee is in fact pronounced "mill-e-wah-que" which is Algonquin for "the good land."
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Scottr
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Posted on Wednesday, March 21, 2007 - 11:09 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

dih-TROIT.

American Heritage Dictionary and Webster's College Dictionary agree.

DEE-troit is more of an Auburn Hills thing. :-)

(Message edited by scottr on March 21, 2007)
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Leland_palmer
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Posted on Wednesday, March 21, 2007 - 11:12 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

dih-TROIT
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Lilpup
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Posted on Wednesday, March 21, 2007 - 11:14 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Coleman Young wasn't a native Detroiter. He was from Alabama.

(Deh-, Duh-, Dih-, at times I've actually thought about which is the most accurate sound)
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Lmichigan
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Posted on Wednesday, March 21, 2007 - 11:39 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Yeah, I forgot to mention I place the emphasis on the second syllable.
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Soulhawk
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Posted on Thursday, March 22, 2007 - 12:12 am: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Rrl must have been backstage with Alice Cooper!
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Posted on Thursday, March 22, 2007 - 12:16 am: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Dee-Twah
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Crash_nyc
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Posted on Thursday, March 22, 2007 - 4:20 am: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

"Dee-TROIT" (for natives like me)

"DEE-troit" (for my fellow New Yorkers that dont have a clue)
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Charlottepaul
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Posted on Thursday, March 22, 2007 - 6:23 am: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

'DEE-troit' for those outside of the city and that have never lived there, such as down here in the south.
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Detroitplanner
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Posted on Thursday, March 22, 2007 - 8:29 am: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Day-troyt (soft-t at end)
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Jan
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Posted on Thursday, March 22, 2007 - 9:19 am: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Dih-TROIT, only.

Hate Deetroit. And yes, people who live outside the area say it this way all of the time.

jan
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Dds
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Posted on Thursday, March 22, 2007 - 9:38 am: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

This is going to turn into one of those stupid "Michigander" or "Michiganian" type threads, isn't it? Cripes.
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Iheartthed
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Posted on Thursday, March 22, 2007 - 9:57 am: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

People on the east coast tend to say "Dih-troit". I say it like that too amongst my snobby peers, but when I'm home it's "DEE-TROIT".
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Savannahsmiles
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Posted on Thursday, March 22, 2007 - 10:14 am: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Dds, I frequent another forum which consists mainly of women (1 man). We discuss many things and there are times when someone will say something others might not care for. During those times, we exercise a very cool concept which we like to call SOB. SOB, for those who don't know, means Scroll On By. ;-)

I tend to say Dih-troit, myself. :-)
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Revolutionary
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Posted on Thursday, March 22, 2007 - 11:15 am: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I'm going with the Jerry Cavanaugh pronunciation:

http://www.archive.org/details /DetroitC1965

(Message edited by Revolutionary on March 22, 2007)
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Mackinaw
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Posted on Thursday, March 22, 2007 - 11:17 am: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Anything but DEE-troit.

Unfortunately this is what most people in the sports media say when they talk about our teams.

It's definitly a proven fact that the emphasis is not on the first syllable; the Ontario way that Lilpup identifies might be my favorite foreign version, but the proper pronounciation remains the one with the short, unemphasized 'e.'
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Oldredfordette
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Posted on Thursday, March 22, 2007 - 11:39 am: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

DEE-troit is an insult.
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Urbanize
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Posted on Thursday, March 22, 2007 - 12:09 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I See DE-Troit, saying it like that is not an insult. In reality, the wya we say it anyway is an insult to our French Ancestors, as they said it DAI-TROUT.
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Umstucoach
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Posted on Thursday, March 22, 2007 - 12:45 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Southern migration during the first part of the 20th century made it DEE-troit (that would always bug my dad to hear it called DEE-troit, and my family isn't originally from SE Michigan).

I guess it doesn't help when people call it the "D" either.
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Spacemonkey
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Posted on Thursday, March 22, 2007 - 12:52 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

De-toilet
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Jt1
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Posted on Thursday, March 22, 2007 - 12:55 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Stupid thread but I just call it home.
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Steelworker
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Posted on Thursday, March 22, 2007 - 12:56 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I would day Duhtroit, never thought about it till this thread, Im starting to realize you are right that DEEtroit is newer family way of sayin it.
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Traxus
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Posted on Thursday, March 22, 2007 - 1:06 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

duh troit

Out of town folk tend say dee troit, those of us who live here have usually become too lazy to say the 'ee' every time.

Midwestren-slur speak.
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Jjaba
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Posted on Thursday, March 22, 2007 - 1:58 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Space monkey, you ARE a space monkey.
dih-TROIT, heard from an old timey Detroiter.

If you say fucking DEE-troit, you also say INN-surance, DISS-play, and gonna go. You're illiterate and grew up somewhere's between Ashland and Louisa, Kentucky.

Using the Coleman Young di-troi-it is perfectly acceptable. Don't confuse him with DEE-troit which is so ignorant.

Ofcourse, those of us on The Forum like da-twa because we be so hip and so French.

jjaba, Westside Bar Mitzvah Bukkor.
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Soulsauce
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Posted on Thursday, March 22, 2007 - 4:02 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Dih-TROIT for me (or deh-TROIT).

DEE-troit only when followed by BASKETBAAAAAAAALLLLLLL!!!

(The DEE-troit pronunciation drove me crazy while watching the movie "Dreamgirls." Hollywood never gets the pronunciation right.)
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Burnsie
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Posted on Thursday, March 22, 2007 - 4:44 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

From Larousse's French-English English-French Dictionary, 1996 ed.:

detroit [detrwa] nm strait.

The e in Detroit has an accent aigu (slanting upwards). Unfortunately, it looks like you can't insert accents on this site.
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Mikeg
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Posted on Thursday, March 22, 2007 - 9:37 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

détroit

Go to Start, Programs, Accessories, System Tools to get the Character Map. Select the special character you want and note the ASCII keystroke code in the lower right corner. The e with the acute accent has a ASCII code of 233. Use the ASCII code tag in the Miscellaneous section in place of the character when you write your post.
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Andylinn
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Posted on Thursday, March 22, 2007 - 10:12 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

ok.... "DA-troit" as a pronunciation is NOT the french way to say it... if you want to say it french like it would be:

something like:
"DAY-TWAH"

which is cool. i prefer the oldtimey pronounce of:

"DEE-TROY-IT"

that's the way it's done...

but in practicality, i just say "dee-troit"
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Urbanize
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I thought about forgetting the "W" afer I typed my post Andylinn, ty for enlightening us.

The "DEE-TROY-IT" way is like a hyped up party way to say the name of the city.
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Posted on Thursday, March 22, 2007 - 11:12 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

DEE-TROY-IT is for when you're writing a song and you need three syllables.

It's pronounced D'troyt. Dih-troyt sounds just about the same and is also right. Accent always on the second syllable.

Except in French class, then it's "DEH-TWAH" (the strait). N'est-ce pas?
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Posted on Thursday, March 22, 2007 - 11:34 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Da troit sounds so country...I say deetroit, i like emphasizing the D and E!! I also have stayed in Deeetroit my whole life,and i am not ignorant

if I am ..someone tell me
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Gistok
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Posted on Friday, March 23, 2007 - 1:00 am: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

It has the same inflection as Cadieux, Schoenherr, Gratiot and Goethe... :-)
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Larryinflorida
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Next week's topic: People who say Lash-er road.
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Gistok
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.... and there are 2 R's in LIBRARY....

.... and the "K" comes after the "S" in ASK...

.... and PORK is not a verb....
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Larryinflorida
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And a personalized license plate does not mean a family member made it.
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Rhymeswithrawk
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Duh-troit.
Only rubes from Auburn Hills say "Deeeeeee-troit." :-)
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Jjaba
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Ok, so you got Dolly Parton with her DEE-troit City. I wanna go home.

Gistok reminds jjaba about OJ Simpson. The boys down to Southcentral LA (Normandy and Florence) were arguing with OJ about some damn thang. And one guys says,
"Ax Nicole, jes Ax her." OJ went home and axed her awright.

jjaba, there's a lesson here about good diction.

deh-TROIT, jes ax jjaba. Nobody here says "getta-go" either. And please, don't call for the PO-lice.
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Michmeister
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Posted on Friday, March 23, 2007 - 8:12 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Call us Deetroiters or Datroiters. Just don`t call us late for dinner.
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Jjaba
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Posted on Friday, March 23, 2007 - 9:47 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Michmeister, how's they call us down yonder in the Delta country?

jjaba.
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Missnmich
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Posted on Saturday, March 24, 2007 - 9:47 am: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Yankees.
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Doe, a Dee, a Dee Troit Dee...
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Erikd
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Dih-TROIT is the most common local pronunciation.

I don't know any Detroiters that say "DEE-troit"...
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Jjaba
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Missnmich, we eagerly await your survey in a Southern church on how to pronounce the auto capital of the world, a large ciy in Michigan.

Do it before jjaba calls to the PO-lice.

jjaba, LOL.
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Michmeister
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Them kindly folks up no`th? Theys always been Deeetroitas, I reckon. The po-lice? Thems those critters that be crawlin on yo hind quarters, if yall ain`t been in the crick, bathin` like yo mama telled ya.
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Pam
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Posted on Sunday, March 25, 2007 - 7:54 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

quote:

I don't know any Detroiters that say "DEE-troit"...



Didn't Ted Nugent say it that way in "Motor City Madhouse"?
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probably why he moved to Texas
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Kronprinz
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Posted on Sunday, March 25, 2007 - 8:57 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

The late great Michigan historian Arthur Pound had a little passage in his book "Detroit, Dynamic City" as to who pronounces it how and why ... but I can't seem to find it.

For people who are into why people pronounce words certain ways and how dialects evolved in this country I suggest H.L. Menckens "The American Language". Super Fascinating for aspiring wordsmiths.
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Jimaz
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Posted on Sunday, March 25, 2007 - 9:25 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

This didn't seem worth starting another thread but it was interesting nonetheless:
Grand Valley State linguist listens to Yoopers' talk, eh?
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Jjaba
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Missnmich knows the difference between Yankees and damn Yankees, we bet.

Yankees come down South and visit, vacation and leave. Damn Yankees stay there. These days, plenty of damn Yankees in NC, Ark., etc., eh.

How many of you don't know what "Up North" means to a Detroiter?

And then there's the "Ma-troit, MO-FO" crowd.
That's another variation on the theme of Detroit.

jjaba, Westsider on the Dexter bus.

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