  Ffdfd Member Username: Ffdfd Post Number: 53 Registered: 09-2006 |
An article in today's Slate includes questions I'm sure many of ask ourselves from time to time: quote: As an employee of the city, I am relieved by the final sentence: quote: http://www.slate.com/id/216183 4/fr/flyout | ||
Dialh4hipster Member Username: Dialh4hipster Post Number: 2006 Registered: 11-2004 |
Relieved? How about putting it in context: quote: | ||
Ffdfd Member Username: Ffdfd Post Number: 55 Registered: 09-2006 |
Don't worry, D4, I'm not actually relieved. | ||
Psip Member Username: Psip Post Number: 1660 Registered: 04-2005 |
So this plonker bastard holds up Detroit as an example. Stupid wanker! (Message edited by PSIP on March 27, 2007) | ||
Penelopetheduck Member Username: Penelopetheduck Post Number: 10 Registered: 09-2006 |
I don't know. I feel like, compared to other people in their twenties, I was much more able to think of my long-term goals and hold out for jobs I really loved because I lied in Detroit and not in San Francisco or New York. Cheap rent really does make a place more welcoming to young, idealistic college graduates. | ||
Detroit313 Member Username: Detroit313 Post Number: 300 Registered: 02-2006 |
yep! 313 | ||
Mayor_sekou Member Username: Mayor_sekou Post Number: 632 Registered: 09-2006 |
" Cheap rent really does make a place more welcoming to young, idealistic college graduates." One of reasons I plan on staying. | ||
Livernoisyard Member Username: Livernoisyard Post Number: 2920 Registered: 10-2004 |
quote: So, why not lie too in those other cities? Are Detroiters that much more easily fooled? Did you also lie on your resume? | ||
Rhymeswithrawk Member Username: Rhymeswithrawk Post Number: 566 Registered: 11-2005 |
Geez, LY, you have been on a grammar cop kick lately. Out of your 2,920 posts, I wonder how many are of this nature? You should get a job copy editing at the Freep. It's looking for part-time help. (Note: I had to go back and change "They're looking" to "It's looking" to avoid the wrath o' LY. hehe) | ||
Defendbrooklyn Member Username: Defendbrooklyn Post Number: 83 Registered: 11-2005 |
As property becomes cheaper businesses will not be able to ignore Detroit for long. At some point it will make sense to invest in Detroit. Once the Govnt. get the budget under control they can offer tax breaks for business. This combination reeks of future profits for some corporation. Irresistible greed will help make this city "decent" again. | ||
3rdworldcity Member Username: 3rdworldcity Post Number: 583 Registered: 01-2005 |
"Once the Govnt. get the budget under control..." When Pigs fly? When bears defecate in bathrooms? In other words, never. | ||
Defendbrooklyn Member Username: Defendbrooklyn Post Number: 84 Registered: 11-2005 |
worldcity, hahahahaha...i hate to say it but you are probably correct. You forgot about when the auto industry booms once again in Michigan. Or when the worlds greatest public trans system is built in Detroit. | ||
Iheartthed Member Username: Iheartthed Post Number: 556 Registered: 04-2006 |
Interesting. But then again, not really. I was just reading an opinion in Barron's about how high real estate costs will eventually slow down the economy of these boom cities and spur it in cheaper places. I don't really buy into that homeowner causing a stagnate economy. If anything, it is probably the reverse. A stagnate or slowing economy causes property to be more affordable and thus more people buying their own property. Not too long ago Detroit had some of the highest housing prices in the country as well. | ||
Danny Member Username: Danny Post Number: 5675 Registered: 02-2004 |
Rents in Midtown Area of Detroit will be rising to the max! Lofts the condos are selling starting at $3,000 to $20,000 by lease contracts. rents in older apts. from $300 to $1,000 a month. | ||
Defendbrooklyn Member Username: Defendbrooklyn Post Number: 90 Registered: 11-2005 |
"Not too long ago Detroit had some of the highest housing prices in the country as well." How long ago was this? | ||
Iheartthed Member Username: Iheartthed Post Number: 557 Registered: 04-2006 |
"Not too long ago" | ||
Upinottawa Member Username: Upinottawa Post Number: 779 Registered: 09-2005 |
The downside of extremely low rent is that low rent can draw in people who are less than interested in finding employment. Low rents also discourage landlords from maintaining properties. I know I am not breaking new ground here.... | ||
Jelk Member Username: Jelk Post Number: 4278 Registered: 10-2003 |
quote: That's the kind of niche demographic you can really build around. Go watch The Big Chill and see how he young, idealistic college graduate thing ends. Detroit can be fashion or it can be a vibrant, sustainable, functional city. It can't be both. Eventually you will stop being young, idealism is tempered by reality, and all of those college graduates will be 30-somethings moving to Farmington Hills or St. Clair Shores. | ||
Iheartthed Member Username: Iheartthed Post Number: 558 Registered: 04-2006 |
"Eventually you will stop being young, idealism is tempered by reality, and all of those college graduates will be 30-somethings moving to Farmington Hills or St. Clair Shores." But if it's done right there will be another batch behind them to take their places. | ||
Jelk Member Username: Jelk Post Number: 4279 Registered: 10-2003 |
quote: That plan doesn't strike me as all that sustainable. The cold, hard truth is Detroit needs to upper middle class and rich people. The most consistent buzzword about sustainable cities is mixed income. Mixed income communities require, you know, an actual mix of incomes. Detroit already has enough starving artist types to keep the Georgian Inn's banquet facility booked for a decade. (Message edited by jelk on March 28, 2007) | ||
Gannon Member Username: Gannon Post Number: 8812 Registered: 12-2003 |
Ha-ha, oh YEAH, the Big Chill is a bellweather of all idealistic college kids after ten years or so...that was one of the lamest arguments you've EVER offered, Jelk. You getting enough sleep? Eating OK? As the momentum flows with Detoit's artistic and music community recognition around the country...and world, as we already have a bunch of interesting folk's interest...we will reach the Tipping Point. (one of my favorite 'connectors' in the whole wide world tipped me towards that book the other night!) (read the description in that Amazon.com page to learn about the term) Cheers, while I continue to watch the foundational roots for Detroit's unlikely and unexpected blooming continue to grow, sinking deeper and deeper into the collective psyche. I don't expect one reared in a monied life to understand this easily, but there is hope, I hope. You apply for that afternoon news show yet?! Heh. | ||
Danny Member Username: Danny Post Number: 5676 Registered: 02-2004 |
Jelk, Most upper middle class who want to come to Detroit to say want to see violent crime like BROTHERS KILLING BROTHERS to stop. The black population reduced to under 30% and the white population to increase to 40% or more. They want to see ethnically diversed neighborhoods, good public school system, little or no vacant or abandon buildings, lesser Po'folks, reduced city corruption. The prime economic resource MORE JOBS JOBS JOBS!!! If all of those requirements come to past, then the middle and upper income folks would come to Detroit to stay for a long time. | ||
Jelk Member Username: Jelk Post Number: 4280 Registered: 10-2003 |
Danny don't talk to me. | ||
Milwaukee Member Username: Milwaukee Post Number: 1094 Registered: 08-2006 |
"Danny don't talk to me"  Thank you for the laugh | ||
Danny Member Username: Danny Post Number: 5684 Registered: 02-2004 |
Jelk, That's very unchristian like of you. | ||
Mayor_sekou Member Username: Mayor_sekou Post Number: 635 Registered: 09-2006 |
He might not be Christian Danny he could be a goddamned Scientologist but that was rather rude but its the internet man who gives a fluck. I dont think it requires idealism for a 30 year old college graduate to decide to raise a family in the city. Some of this sad regions best housing stock is in the city, Id rather move into Indian Village, Rosedale Park, or Sherwood forest than move into a suburb that doesnt want me. | ||
Danny Member Username: Danny Post Number: 5690 Registered: 02-2004 |
Mayor_sekou I'm a Socialist Democratic Christian Street Prophet. You have no ideal what my life is like. And I have no ideal what your life is like neither as the rest of the forum members. If you don't have anything nice to say to people, Don't say it at all for every word that comes out from the mouth comes from the heart. I'll pray for you jelk for you're missing a blessing today. | ||
Jelk Member Username: Jelk Post Number: 4284 Registered: 10-2003 |
I'm a Thomism Catholic. I was taught to believe anti-Semitic, homophobes who endorse the murder of Matthew Sheppard aren't Christian. I'm also opposed to evangelicalism in all forms so rather than try to convert bigoted simpletons like Danny, I just try to avoid them. So I'll ask again as nice and Christian as I possibly can...Danny please never talk to me again. | ||
Danny Member Username: Danny Post Number: 5693 Registered: 02-2004 |
Jelk, How can you call yourself a Thomism Catholic if you're not living Christian life? | ||
Danindc Member Username: Danindc Post Number: 2260 Registered: 10-2003 |
quote: Amen. Based on conversations I've had with friends, I believe you'll start to see a lot more people--especially those currently in their 20s--settle down and raise kids in the city. | ||
Jelk Member Username: Jelk Post Number: 4286 Registered: 10-2003 |
Danny, please I beseech you stop talking to me. This is the third time I've asked and every request has been made in the spirit of Christian fellowship. Why won't you honor this humble request. Three times I've asked and if you speak to me again do you know what that means? You've denied me three times. You know else who was denied three times? Jesus. Think about that... | ||
3rdworldcity Member Username: 3rdworldcity Post Number: 586 Registered: 01-2005 |
Jelk: "Judge not, lest ye be judged." Well, I don't care one way or another about being judged. So, I have to say that when it comes to Danny you don't have a Christian bone in your body, And, there's no such thing as a "Thomism Catholic." Maybe you're a Thomistic Catholic. I doubt it. | ||
Jelk Member Username: Jelk Post Number: 4287 Registered: 10-2003 |
I require no lectures from a slum lord. Perhaps I should ask our friend Andy for use of some pictures of your "tenants" from last summer. | ||
3rdworldcity Member Username: 3rdworldcity Post Number: 588 Registered: 01-2005 |
You're correct. You don't require a lecture. You require a good ass-kicking. I'd rather be a "slumlord," whatever that is, than a "Thomism Catholic," whatever that is. I have no friends named "Andy" and I haven't had tenants for years unless you count the patrons of my parking lots "tenants." Danny, I'll be you could whip his butt one-handed. I'll rent the hall. Peace. | ||
Jonnyfive Member Username: Jonnyfive Post Number: 35 Registered: 03-2007 |
"I'm a Socialist Democratic Christian Street Prophet" ummm... You're a prophet? "You've denied me three times. You know else who was denied three times? Jesus. Think about that..." Wow, this argument is stupid. |
