  Jdkeepsmiling Member Username: Jdkeepsmiling Post Number: 240 Registered: 01-2006 |
Here is a great little blurb about some serious investment in the city. This is the kind of thing that will help anchor communities as they stabilize and grow. http://www.detnews.com/apps/pb cs.dll/article?AID=/20070405/U PDATE/704050457/1003 | ||
Urbanize Member Username: Urbanize Post Number: 580 Registered: 02-2007 |
That's great news. I love Papa Johns. Let's hope they open within our delivery range though. Sort of annoyed having to go over to Grosse Pointe, Eastpointe or Warren for a decent pizza. Only place that will deliver over here is poor run mom and pop stores and a rank Dominoes. | ||
Thejesus Member Username: Thejesus Post Number: 848 Registered: 06-2006 |
30 of them? Holy shit! | ||
Milwaukee Member Username: Milwaukee Post Number: 1140 Registered: 08-2006 |
That's good news. I don't want to rain on the parade, but.... 1. This is creating 1,000 minimum wage jobs 2. Their pizza sucks 3. Detroit's already a pretty fat city, why add to the problem. I'll stick with the local places over a nation chain any day. 1,000 people who were making 50$ an hour at the plant are now making 7,50$ at Papa John's. How is that progress? | ||
Crawford Member Username: Crawford Post Number: 61 Registered: 10-2006 |
Their pizza is terrible, but if they really open 30 locations, it's great news. | ||
Thejesus Member Username: Thejesus Post Number: 850 Registered: 06-2006 |
Milwaukee: I don't think the jobs are really the issue...the issue is selling suburbanites on the viability of living in Detroit, and this is just one more step in the right direction... Also, it's an indication that there is money in Detroit that businesses have yet to tap into...if these franchises are successful, other may follow suit... methinks Detroit is going to look and feel very different in 5-10 years : ) | ||
56packman Member Username: 56packman Post Number: 1203 Registered: 12-2005 |
But will he restore the United Artists theatre? | ||
Wilus1mj Member Username: Wilus1mj Post Number: 187 Registered: 05-2005 |
30 locations in Detroit or the Detroit Metro Area??? The only Papa Johns I know about is at 16 Rochester in Troy. | ||
Wilus1mj Member Username: Wilus1mj Post Number: 188 Registered: 05-2005 |
Illitch will use his secret weapon the scary little "Pizza Pizza" toga guy to attack Papa John....whoever he is. Support Detroit born Pizza Chains....Little Cesars, Dominoes, Hungry Howies....and all the local joints!! Papa Johns is based in Kentucky. | ||
Tetsua Member Username: Tetsua Post Number: 1158 Registered: 01-2004 |
quote: There there are people out there who would love and need these minimum wage jobs though. Their pizza sucking is a matter of opinion, and Detroit's (or any cities) fat status is more of a problem with lifestyle, not just the availability of fast food. I do however agree with you on eating at the local places over the chains. | ||
Johnlodge Member Username: Johnlodge Post Number: 360 Registered: 10-2003 |
You can actually make a fairly decent amount of money delivering pizza. I'm not saying its a career, but when I delivered pizza in college I could easily rake in $25 an hour if you counted my wage + tips. It really is better than a minimum wage job. I'm not saying you're gonna buy a house on the hill with it, but it beats slinging burgers at McDonalds any day. It was a popular job for people who DID have full time jobs who just wanted some extra pocket money too, since the schedules are so flexible and mostly evenings. PS Papa John was a Domino's franchisee before stealing all their ideas and starting his own company. Thats where he came from. | ||
Milwaukee Member Username: Milwaukee Post Number: 1141 Registered: 08-2006 |
It's good that he's bringing the tax dollars into the city. I guess these 1000 jobs are probably going to people who don't have jobs now. Doing something is better than nothing. (Message edited by milwaukee on April 05, 2007) | ||
Urbanize Member Username: Urbanize Post Number: 584 Registered: 02-2007 |
"30 locations in Detroit or the Detroit Metro Area??? The only Papa Johns I know about is at 16 Rochester in Troy." There's one in Eastpointe. I don't trust the local places. All the ones I've been to are run very poorly and definently aren't the cleanest in the world. King's Pizza on 7 Mile proved that. | ||
Thejesus Member Username: Thejesus Post Number: 853 Registered: 06-2006 |
I don't know how many locations they have in Detroit, and I don't think there are many, but the company is by no means small potatoes... Papa John's in a publicly traded company on the NASDAQ with a market cap of almost a billion dollars... this is a positive thing for the D | ||
Urbanize Member Username: Urbanize Post Number: 591 Registered: 02-2007 |
It may be one or two in Detroit, but the chances are slim. | ||
Tetsua Member Username: Tetsua Post Number: 1159 Registered: 01-2004 |
I heard on the news that it's 30 location within the city. | ||
Urbanize Member Username: Urbanize Post Number: 593 Registered: 02-2007 |
I was commenting on Thejesus' comment Tetsua. | ||
Club_boss Member Username: Club_boss Post Number: 20 Registered: 12-2006 |
We order Papa John's all the time, because they deliver to our address, it's a good pizza, but, IMO Buddy's Is Better. | ||
Charlottepaul Member Username: Charlottepaul Post Number: 739 Registered: 10-2006 |
I might just be guessing, but I don't think that Jdkeepsmiling posted that link to the News article for people on the forum to discuss what kind of pizza is better, or critique the type of jobs that Papa John's offers. Rather as simply a sign that Detroit is headed in the right direction and things are getting better. | ||
Urbanize Member Username: Urbanize Post Number: 594 Registered: 02-2007 |
"I might just be guessing, but I don't think that Jdkeepsmiling posted that link to the News article for people on the forum to discuss what kind of pizza is better, or critique the type of jobs that Papa John's offers. Rather as simply a sign that Detroit is headed in the right direction and things are getting better." So you're saying that if Sonics eventually opened a location in the city that everything will be at it's best? It's a pizza place, not a headquarter or anything. | ||
Thejesus Member Username: Thejesus Post Number: 857 Registered: 06-2006 |
Urbanize: The point is, it's something that wasnt happening before now...i.e., the city is moving in the right direction | ||
Eric Member Username: Eric Post Number: 760 Registered: 11-2004 |
quote: No that 30 more small businesses that aren't liquor stores or gas stations should be viewed as a positiive. | ||
Johnlodge Member Username: Johnlodge Post Number: 364 Registered: 10-2003 |
Speaking of Sonic burger, I'm sure glad they stopped advertising here. I was getting really sick of being taunted with Sonic Blasts when there isn't a Sonic anywhere within two states of here. GRR! | ||
6nois Member Username: 6nois Post Number: 142 Registered: 11-2006 |
Papa John's yay. That means one more decent pizza place close to school. I would love to see a Jet's on Livernois, but I can be happy with a Papa John's. | ||
Homer Member Username: Homer Post Number: 150 Registered: 08-2004 |
Sonic Burger would be a good addition to the fast food market here. After seeing their ads for so long here I had to have one when I was in Denver recently. Gotta say they are much better than McD's or BK's. | ||
Milwaukee Member Username: Milwaukee Post Number: 1154 Registered: 08-2006 |
I don't really like the food at Sonic, but I LOVE those drinks! They serve the best drinks and milkshakes! Do they have Steak and Shake in Michigan? They have good milkshakes and they're kind of fun to go to. | ||
Urbanize Member Username: Urbanize Post Number: 626 Registered: 02-2007 |
They have them in Michigan (believe only one location). | ||
Mod Member Username: Mod Post Number: 104 Registered: 07-2004 |
Pizza chains, or any food chain for that matter, suck ass. I have yet to find a chain pizza that didn't taste like old socks. | ||
Club_boss Member Username: Club_boss Post Number: 22 Registered: 12-2006 |
There is a Steak & Shake in Washtenaw county, I use to stop by after work and get my fix. Sonic makes an excellent shake, S & S shakes are second to none. | ||
Urbanize Member Username: Urbanize Post Number: 629 Registered: 02-2007 |
METRO Detroit has finally lucked up on some Culvers though (3). For those who are unaware, there like a larger Fuddruckers. (Message edited by Urbanize on April 06, 2007) | ||
Urbanize Member Username: Urbanize Post Number: 630 Registered: 02-2007 |
OH, there's 21. Only 6 in Metro Detroit and none in the City of Detroit http://steakandshake.com/state s/mic.asp | ||
Club_boss Member Username: Club_boss Post Number: 23 Registered: 12-2006 |
You guys are talking about all the good places to go eat. Culver's Butterburgers, Yummy. | ||
Milwaukee Member Username: Milwaukee Post Number: 1156 Registered: 08-2006 |
"I have yet to find a chain pizza that didn't taste like old socks" Have you had Rocky Rococo's? That's the only good chain pizza I can think of. Still, I'm a fan of the neighborhood pizza place. Urbanize, I love Culvers! They're from Wisconsin, so we have them everywhere. Good burgers, I'm such a fan of the custard (compared to other Milwaukee places). | ||
Umstucoach Member Username: Umstucoach Post Number: 135 Registered: 04-2006 |
Papa John's is ok. The sausage pizza they've been advertising is not bad, but there are better options in the area (I prefer the large, square Sicilian-style a la Buddy's). I must say I'm a little surprised because of the plethora of pizza chains here: both national and local. They must think they have a opening here or else why bother trying. | ||
Milwaukee Member Username: Milwaukee Post Number: 1157 Registered: 08-2006 |
Does anybody like Pizza Hut? That probably finishes last in terms of my chain pizza places. Little Caesar's is good if you only have 5 dollars and you're hungry or out with your friends. I always ate Papa Johns at Marquette games with my dad. Although the pizza is bad, it makes me think about the fun stuff I've done with my dad. | ||
Urbanize Member Username: Urbanize Post Number: 632 Registered: 02-2007 |
I feel the same way about Pizza Hut and Little Caesars also. Did Ilitch change the recipe or something, because back in the 90s, it was delish. | ||
Catman_dude Member Username: Catman_dude Post Number: 110 Registered: 03-2006 |
I rate Papa Johns' pizza very good, especially their Sausage Sensation. Domino's is good but I rarely order from them. Hungary Howie's was the best pizza I ever ate back when I lived in Westland. They were the ones that started the 2 for 1 special that Little Caesar's copied. They had one HH here in Chesapeake VA but suffered from lack of recognition and closed. Durn. Little Caesar's has fallen in quality to the point that they are rated just above CiCi's Pizza (cheap pizza buffet chain) that taste like cardboard. But at times, I like to go to the locally-owned (wherever they are) Italian or Greek restaurant to get a pizza. Like Angelo's Brothers on Ford Road in Westland or Val's here in Virginia Beach VA. Stay away from Chuck E. Cheese's. | ||
Urbanize Member Username: Urbanize Post Number: 636 Registered: 02-2007 |
"Stay away from Chuck E. Cheese's." Got that right. | ||
Rhymeswithrawk Member Username: Rhymeswithrawk Post Number: 631 Registered: 11-2005 |
Two words: Schitt yeah! That garlic butter dipping sauce is uber-nummy. | ||
Gibran Member Username: Gibran Post Number: 158 Registered: 02-2007 |
It's delivery and mass produced....actually I had some in Tulsa yesterday for a business meeting and was not bad :}...But I believe the good thing is anytime something is created in the city it is good news...As far as minimum wages ;;; I believe not all of us started out at CEo wages and for the young kids who say there is no opportunities; here you go...start learning a work ethic...we all did ...Busemies (spelling)and Mr. C's would be better though | ||
Reetz12 Member Username: Reetz12 Post Number: 156 Registered: 09-2005 |
Southfield is getting a Fat Burger, I believe this is the first in MIchigan. Also, Little Ceasers became crap when started their $5 hot-n-ready! I'd prefer Hungry Howies out of all the chains. | ||
Urbanize Member Username: Urbanize Post Number: 639 Registered: 02-2007 |
I vote Mr. C's. BuSCAMis food poisoned me. | ||
Milwaukee Member Username: Milwaukee Post Number: 1165 Registered: 08-2006 |
I've never been to Big Boy, how is it? I like Bob Evans. I always go there if we're in Indiana. I love those breakfasts. The only thing in Wisconsin like that is the frozen breakfast meals. I love the big boy mascot. I love it when they have that as a statue. | ||
Jdkeepsmiling Member Username: Jdkeepsmiling Post Number: 241 Registered: 01-2006 |
It is funny that any post about food, even if it is development news gets turned into a quality of food discussion. My point in this post was to point out that you need national chains to open in the city to encourage people to live in the city. One of the complaints we always here on this forum is that I need to drive to X to buy X, why can't there be X store here. I don't care if it is the crappiest pizza in the world, what it means is that 1000 Detroit Residents will have jobs and people will be able to go around their block and buy a pizza from a functioning, tax paying business, with lights that are on and a storefront that is not empty. I am just amazed that if there is this market one of the Detroit Pizza companies did not take this initiative. I am convinced that underserved Urban America is the last growth market left for many domestic chains. We shall see..... | ||
Urbanize Member Username: Urbanize Post Number: 640 Registered: 02-2007 |
It's a great restaurant. Most of the Big Boy locations today are only in Michigan. We have Bob Evans too. I haven't been there in years though. | ||
Supersport Member Username: Supersport Post Number: 11460 Registered: 10-2003 |
Everybody has their own taste I guess, I always loved Papa John's up at CMU, consider it among the top pizzas I've had. Not to mention, they recently launched an online service where you can order your pizza via their website! How cool/high tech is that? | ||
Gibran Member Username: Gibran Post Number: 159 Registered: 02-2007 |
I had a close friend who worked for Big Boy on Harper(1970's) ... would get good burgers there. I have been to sonics all over ...I still like Wendy's Burgers over theirs. Good drinks... Fast food is just that . I prefer Mom and Pops...but if Le Shish out in warren went fast I would be a happy guy. | ||
Urbanize Member Username: Urbanize Post Number: 641 Registered: 02-2007 |
Wendy's is nasty and they food poisoned me (lol). | ||
Milwaukee Member Username: Milwaukee Post Number: 1166 Registered: 08-2006 |
I looked up Big Boy, they had almost 100 locations in Michigan! They're also in Illinois, North Dakota, Florida, California, and some other smaller states. Do they have good burgers? We were up at 9 Mile and Jefferson last year and we thought about going, I don't know why we didn't. | ||
Urbanize Member Username: Urbanize Post Number: 643 Registered: 02-2007 |
The Elias Brothers did a good job managing the franchise is the general conclusion unlike those other people. | ||
Gibran Member Username: Gibran Post Number: 160 Registered: 02-2007 |
Wow Urban ...altough i would love to go to lunch with many on this post I might reconsider that Urban :} I hope that there are some places out there... Elias Brothers did a good job in the 70's are they still operating them now? | ||
Apbest Member Username: Apbest Post Number: 519 Registered: 03-2006 |
http://www.detnews.com/apps/pb cs.dll/article?AID=/20070406/B IZ/704060361/1001 read the article...it says most will be in the city also...Canfield and Cass?? theres nothing there but parking lots...could they mean forest and cass in the retail section of South U's garage? | ||
Chitaku Member Username: Chitaku Post Number: 1293 Registered: 03-2006 |
I grew up with the Big Boy chain. Elias owned Big Boy untill 1999 when the chain filed bankruptcy. Robert Ligget owns Big boy now but the same folks pretty much run it. Some locations are good but some of the franchised locations are pretty bad, I treat my friends to Big Boy at least once a week thanks to gift cards from my parents. Stay away from the belle Isle one, the owners neglect it and it is absolutely awful . Before the karmic Cafe the only job i ever knew was Big Boy. | ||
Iddude313 Member Username: Iddude313 Post Number: 57 Registered: 07-2005 |
There's not much @ Canfield/Cass. Hmmm... | ||
Gistok Member Username: Gistok Post Number: 4101 Registered: 08-2004 |
Hmmmm.... it seems that everyone is trying to poison you Urbanize... | ||
Soomka1 Member Username: Soomka1 Post Number: 6 Registered: 02-2007 |
Papa Johns is lame. Their pizza is the equivalent of Wonderbread. It is bland and the sauce is too sweet. How can they expect to come into Pizzatown and make a dent when there are so many great local pizza places there that deserve support? | ||
Urbanize Member Username: Urbanize Post Number: 729 Registered: 02-2007 |
The local pizza places must out weigh the crappy ones, and that isn't really working in this society. |
