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Supersport
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Posted on Tuesday, April 10, 2007 - 3:19 pm: ††Edit PostDelete Post†††Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hot on the heels of Troy, a shooting takes place in Ferndale leaving one dead.

http://freep.com/apps/pbcs.dll /article?AID=/20070410/NEWS03/ 70410028
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Rhymeswithrawk
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Posted on Tuesday, April 10, 2007 - 3:45 pm: ††Edit PostDelete Post†††Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

The suburbs are no longer safe! Quick! Everyone back into the city! ... ... Eh, can't blame a Detroiter for tryin', can ya? :-) hehe

(Message edited by rhymeswithrawk on April 10, 2007)
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Rugbyman
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Posted on Tuesday, April 10, 2007 - 5:09 pm: ††Edit PostDelete Post†††Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Yeah, the SWAT team was camped out on my block. It was interesting driving back to my neighborhood today and getting stopped by a cop with an M4 and two banana clips.
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Danny
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Posted on Tuesday, April 10, 2007 - 5:10 pm: ††Edit PostDelete Post†††Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

YAY!!!!! Hope you all suburbanites learned a lesson when you all left Detroit a long time ago to the po-folks.
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Scs100
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Posted on Tuesday, April 10, 2007 - 5:11 pm: ††Edit PostDelete Post†††Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Uh, we all didn't leave. I was born in GP.
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Bulletmagnet
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Posted on Tuesday, April 10, 2007 - 5:15 pm: ††Edit PostDelete Post†††Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I'm scared out here in Ferndale now. I'm moving back to Detroit right NOW. Besides, I could use the cheap water.
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Scs100
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Posted on Tuesday, April 10, 2007 - 5:16 pm: ††Edit PostDelete Post†††Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

lol @ bullet.
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Wazootyman
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Posted on Tuesday, April 10, 2007 - 5:32 pm: ††Edit PostDelete Post†††Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I saw a guy break the law in Farmington Hills today. True story.
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Johnlodge
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Posted on Tuesday, April 10, 2007 - 5:35 pm: ††Edit PostDelete Post†††Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Oh my gosh. Do we have to do this EVERY single time there's a murder anywhere in the state of Michigan? Alright, let's pull out the stats again.

Ferndale Murders 2005: 1
Ferndale Murders 2005 per 100,000: 4.5

Detroit Murders 2005: 354
Detroit Murders 2005 per 100,000: 39.3

Ok, can we be done?

Love Detroit, but let's not kid ourselves here.
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Bulletmagnet
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Posted on Tuesday, April 10, 2007 - 5:36 pm: ††Edit PostDelete Post†††Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Wazootyman donít tell me: did he not use his turn signal? I think the burbs can do a lot better to get their stats up. Come on burbs, start killin'!!!

(Message edited by Bulletmagnet on April 10, 2007)
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Focusonthed
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Posted on Tuesday, April 10, 2007 - 5:39 pm: ††Edit PostDelete Post†††Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

No, he honked his car horn. They don't take that shit in Ferndale.
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Rhymeswithrawk
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Oh my gosh. Do we have to do this EVERY single time there's a murder anywhere in the state of Michigan? Alright, let's pull out the stats again.

Ferndale Murders 2005: 1
Ferndale Murders 2005 per 100,000: 4.5

Detroit Murders 2005: 354
Detroit Murders 2005 per 100,000: 39.3

Ok, can we be done?

Love Detroit, but let's not kid ourselves here.



Duuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuude, I was kidding. Why is everyone so damn defensive on this board? I mean seriously. Didn't this make it clear that I was kidding?
"Eh, can't blame a Detroiter for tryin', can ya? hehe "

It even had a smiley face! Christ, did I need to put a big LOL or something next to it? Lighten up, people.
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Bulletmagnet
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Posted on Tuesday, April 10, 2007 - 6:17 pm: ††Edit PostDelete Post†††Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Rhymeswithrawk, shame on you for making fun of such a serious topic! This is DetroitYES!, not DetroitKa-Pow! Now excuse me, but I must go clean my guns.
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Johnlodge
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Posted on Tuesday, April 10, 2007 - 7:57 pm: ††Edit PostDelete Post†††Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Nah I wasn't yelling at you Rawk. It's that Danny who I think was actually serious. I wouldn't yell at you, I need to find out how your floors turn out so I can decide if I'm going to do mine. ;)
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Supersport
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Posted on Tuesday, April 10, 2007 - 8:16 pm: ††Edit PostDelete Post†††Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Should all of the suburbs be placed on crime alert, simply as a precaution?
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Detroitej72
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Posted on Tuesday, April 10, 2007 - 10:23 pm: ††Edit PostDelete Post†††Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Yesterday Troy, today Ferndale, tomorrow...Bloomfield?

Just kidding.
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Johnlodge
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Posted on Tuesday, April 10, 2007 - 10:34 pm: ††Edit PostDelete Post†††Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

So details came out. This has very little to do with Ferndale.

http://www.myfoxdetroit.com/my fox/pages/News/Detail?contentI d=2893746&version=1&locale=EN- US&layoutCode=TSTY&pageId=3.2. 1

"Police say the victim is a 48-year-old man from Detroit who was recently released fro prison. The two suspects are also from Detroit."

This is probably retaliation for something that occured in prison. The suspects are most likely "friends on the outside". Either way, it reflects not at all on my fair city, so NYAH.
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Thejesus
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Posted on Tuesday, April 10, 2007 - 10:58 pm: ††Edit PostDelete Post†††Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

lol...funny, I can hear crickets in here after JL's post...
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Johnlodge
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Posted on Tuesday, April 10, 2007 - 11:04 pm: ††Edit PostDelete Post†††Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I think I saw a tumbleweed roll by as well, TJ.
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Rocket_city
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Posted on Wednesday, April 11, 2007 - 12:02 am: ††Edit PostDelete Post†††Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

If you guys want some serious city vs suburb 5th grade level comedy, visit the freep.com forums on these news stories. I gave up on those a long time ago, and if you've never read them (until now), you would see why.

Anyway, people pulling guns to solve their problems shows that they've respectfully exhausted all other methods of conflict resolution and that they are desperate to come out the winner. That or blasting peoples' brains out is the new "slap on the wrist".
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Lilpup
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sorry, JL, it took place in your city and, quite frankly, too damned close to my parents' house - I hate it when anything happens near their neck of the woods

The junkies on bicycles is one thing, but flying lead - I don't go for that

(Message edited by lilpup on April 11, 2007)
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Miss_cleo
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Posted on Wednesday, April 11, 2007 - 7:33 am: ††Edit PostDelete Post†††Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

But they were ALL from Detroit, keep that shit down there!
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Johnlodge
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Don't be sorry, because your point is irrelevant. No Ferndale citizens involved is all that matters to me. The shooter could have followed the victim all the way to Sault St. Marie and shot him, they're still both from Detroit.
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Rjk
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Posted on Wednesday, April 11, 2007 - 9:43 am: ††Edit PostDelete Post†††Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Great job by the witness who followed this guy and tipped off the police. Years ago (pre-cellphones) this guy might have gotten away.
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Lvnthed
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Posted on Wednesday, April 11, 2007 - 10:13 am: ††Edit PostDelete Post†††Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Miss_cleo & Johnlodge

So I guess that applies to you also!!!

Keep Your Shit Out Of Detroit
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Miss_cleo
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Posted on Wednesday, April 11, 2007 - 10:34 am: ††Edit PostDelete Post†††Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

dont worry, I will, I will keep my beautiful land, safe streets, good schools, low crime, fresh air, far, far away from Detroit....if you keep all the gun toteing criminals down there. lol
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6nois
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Posted on Wednesday, April 11, 2007 - 10:47 am: ††Edit PostDelete Post†††Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Haven't you learned anything gun toteing criminals are everywhere. geeze. LOL>
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Bulletmagnet
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Posted on Wednesday, April 11, 2007 - 10:50 am: ††Edit PostDelete Post†††Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

http://www.freep.com/apps/pbcs .dll/article?AID=/20070411/NEW S03/704110336

This is the result of our neighbors to the south when they pay us a visit.
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Miss_cleo
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Posted on Wednesday, April 11, 2007 - 10:52 am: ††Edit PostDelete Post†††Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Haven't you learned anything gun toteing criminals are everywhere. geeze. LOL>
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Really? no way? sheesh!
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Johnlodge
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Posted on Wednesday, April 11, 2007 - 11:05 am: ††Edit PostDelete Post†††Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Lvnthed, OK, I'll stop spending all my money there and helping out your economy. Good plan buddy.
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Lvnthed
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Posted on Wednesday, April 11, 2007 - 11:21 am: ††Edit PostDelete Post†††Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Cleo,

I'm sure you will keep your family out of the City Buying up all of the CRACK and HEROIN in sight. I'm pretty sure you have your local rehab on speed-dial.

What the hell is wrong with this thought that Buying drugs and Sex is not a crime but selling is!!!! "THERE IS NO DRUG MARKET WITHOUT YOU"

We have a shared Responsibility:

Your responsibility is to STOP BEING AN ENABLER reduce the Use of drugs in your community.

And with that reduction, my responsibility is to reduce all of the negatives associated with the sales.

Please don't talk about Guns in Detroit as we all know where they come from!!

Also, you don't wan't to go there, with that "your neighborhood is better than mine" argument. Although I Defend the city and can't wait to go back, I built in he burbs a couple years back. So lets not get confused about addresses!!
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Lvnthed
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Posted on Wednesday, April 11, 2007 - 11:26 am: ††Edit PostDelete Post†††Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

WHAT IS SO WRONG WITH NOT WANTING CRIMINALS IN YOUR CITY

ARENT PEOPLE WHO BUY DRUGS, PROSTITUTES AND SELL ILLEGAL GUNS CRIMINALS

THEY ARE IN MY BOOK
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Johnlodge
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Lvnthed, you are a complete idiot. I don't think Cleo drives 4 hours downstate to buy crack in Detroit.

Man, I don't usually resort to name calling, but that is just f'ing stupid. BTW I never said "my neighborhood is better than yours". I expressed relief no Ferdalians were shot or did the shooting, as I have a sense of community, which I am allowed to.

I don't buy drugs in Detroit, I don't buy sex in Detroit, I don't own a gun or sell any, so get a freakin' clue.
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Lvnthed
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Johnlodge,

I DIDN'T TAKE YOU FOR A DRUG ADDICT

DRUG MONEY NOT WELCOME
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Scs100
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Posted on Wednesday, April 11, 2007 - 11:30 am: ††Edit PostDelete Post†††Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Lvnthed:

Calm down.
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Lvnthed
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You know it is sooooo easy for people in the subs to degrade people in the city about what they do. But growing up in that Vandyke corridor and watching that deluge of people invading my old neighborhood every day was hard.
what is even harder to swallow is that when I go back every weekend I still see the same patterns and people.

You can bash all those who are selling drugs and committing crimes in the city, but you better own up to the suburban responsibility. This is a two way street.

Stop being so thin skinned.

And yes I know people who exclusively travel from up north to sell stolen/legal guns and other merchandise for drugs.
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Scs100
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Posted on Wednesday, April 11, 2007 - 11:54 am: ††Edit PostDelete Post†††Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I know what you are talking about, but STOP POSTING THE SAME THINGS! It is getting really annoying.
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Johnlodge
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DUDE nobody is bashing or degrading people who live in the city. There is not ONE freaking post on this whole thread that generalizes the people there as bad people. Go back and actually read before running your mouth. You've been on here for not even a month, and you have 114 posts because you talk and don't listen.

YOU are the one being defensive and thin skinned. Give it a rest.
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Scs100
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Posted on Wednesday, April 11, 2007 - 11:58 am: ††Edit PostDelete Post†††Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Thank you, JL.
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Lvnthed
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Scs100,

Sorry for getting worked up! BUT

I am sick and tired of these self-richeous ass-holes who dog Detroit about everything, when they damn well know the truth about what's going on.
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Focusonthed
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Haha, I loved this snippet from the Free Press article.

quote:

Andrea Cato, 59, who lives on the fifth floor of Autumn House, said she saw the shooting.

"I was scared," she said.


Riveting stuff. Pulitzer.
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Scs100
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Yea. I saw that too and started laughing. I mean, yeah, you were scared, no problem. It's just the way the Free Press put it.
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Bulletmagnet
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I was thinking of opening a sex/drug/weapons house here in Ferndale so people wouldn't have to drive so far to buy or sell them. I see this as a win-win for the suburbs and Detroit.
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Lvnthed
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Bullet, You'ld make a killin!!!
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Bulletmagnet
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I'll pay my water bill with profits, and give the rest to charity.
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Lvnthed
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Sounds like a plan!

By the way, Did you find the problem?
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Bulletmagnet
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Yes, Lvnthed. Some think having an Olympic size swimming pool had something to do with it.
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Brandon48202
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What I found suprising/interesting about this is that a small city like Ferndale has one of those SWAT team tanks. I wonder how often they get to use it.
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Johnlodge
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Every year at the Dream Cruise, when it's parked in the Meridian just so people can look at it at go "neat."
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I wonder if the police officers fought with each other over who got to drive the tank.
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Ferntruth
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Everyone seems to have an opinion on Ferndale maintaining a SWAT team. As someone who actually lives in Ferndale (and whose taxes pay to support the SWAT unit), I'm damned glad we have it and for a lot of reasons.
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Johnlodge
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Its fine with me.
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Bulletmagnet
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As a supporter of law and order, I'm happy to pay for our quick response teams. Itís nice to know that some one will show up when you may need them (unlike some other cities that shall remain nameless). Way to go Ferndale 5-O.
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Zimm
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"What I found suprising/interesting about this is that a small city like Ferndale has one of those SWAT team tanks. I wonder how often they get to use it."

the tank vehicle i saw being used in the news footage had Madison Heights markings on it. unless there was a second unit i did not see, i don't think Ferndale has a tank.

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