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6nois
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Posted on Monday, November 10, 2008 - 10:31 am:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I would argue the large hole in the back points to the building not spontaneously collapsing. I would argue that the city should begin to fine and take action against land owners who neglect properties. Until the city begins to take action more of this will happen.
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Higgs1634
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Posted on Monday, November 10, 2008 - 10:38 am:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Anyone have an over/under on how long it stays a pile of rubble? two weeks? month? year?
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Haikoont
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Posted on Monday, November 10, 2008 - 10:57 am:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I was downtown this morning and took a pic (from somewhat of a distance).



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Digitalvision
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Posted on Monday, November 10, 2008 - 11:08 am:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I'm going to go out on a limb and say it'll be gone by parade day.
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Detroitplanner
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Posted on Monday, November 10, 2008 - 11:31 am:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Thanks for the pics all.

One more try: Wasn't that a Church's chicken at one point?
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Leannam1989
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Posted on Monday, November 10, 2008 - 11:47 am:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

You can see the building as it was on StreetView.

http://tinyurl.com/63meqc

The street wall looks pretty well intact. It's a shame to have a hole in that wall.
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Posted on Monday, November 10, 2008 - 12:09 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

That sucks! I remember that building and thought it was one of the more unique looking ones with that roof and all. Thats too bad.
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Lefty2
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Posted on Monday, November 10, 2008 - 12:30 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

drive down three mile in 48224, there are people right now, tearing crap out of homes and the citizens or cops don't do a thing about it.
I would shot them myself but I would go to jail.
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Bob
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Posted on Monday, November 10, 2008 - 12:37 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I am surprised you have not heard more about it on the news.
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Gravitymachine
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Posted on Monday, November 10, 2008 - 12:49 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

by god, it worked! demolition by neglect really, really worked!
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Danny
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Posted on Monday, November 10, 2008 - 12:53 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

This is truly the end of Downtown Detroit. We're folks not are going to adapt for change.
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Navi
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Posted on Monday, November 10, 2008 - 12:55 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Wow, that's wild.

Thanks for sharing the pictures.
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Staticstate
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Posted on Monday, November 10, 2008 - 3:02 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

what if Broderick collapsed - you think that might cause people to get a bit more concerned with these buildings? the constant shift of temperature and moisture cannot be good for a structure that is sitting open unheated.
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Retroit
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Posted on Monday, November 10, 2008 - 3:25 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Anyone know where I can buy a hard hat with a Tigers emblem?
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Lukabottle
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Posted on Monday, November 10, 2008 - 3:49 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

The whole from came from people breaking into the broderick and throwing things from the roof off. The hole was created over 2 years ago from part of the equipment on the roof.

To my knowledge, which is not reliable since I no longer bartend at the Broderick, Mike Higgins owns the building that collapsed. He may have sold it since then.
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Motorcitydave
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Posted on Monday, November 10, 2008 - 3:59 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

It was demolished.... there was an excavator there the other day 'scooping' away at it...

(Message edited by motorcitydave on November 10, 2008)
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1kielsondrive
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Posted on Monday, November 10, 2008 - 7:02 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

That's really cool. I mean the heads up and photos. Thanks for posting. I drove by it saturday night and didn't even notice it was crumbled.
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Rhymeswithrawk
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Posted on Monday, November 10, 2008 - 7:15 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Wait, so it collapsed or it was demo'd? Motorcitydave seems to make this sound a lot less of a big deal than it is being made out to be.
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Lefty2
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Posted on Monday, November 10, 2008 - 7:24 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

"Still, insane that it would spontaneously collapse."

maybe it didn't? Where's Gannon.
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Amgasper01
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Posted on Monday, November 10, 2008 - 8:14 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Guys, it collapsed. Trust me. I saw it on Saturday morning, half of the building laying on the sidewalk and no construction crew in sight. Construction crews came in later in the day and were cleaning it up while that huge crowd of 12,000 was filing out of Ford Field after the WMU/Illinois game.
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Jimaz
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Posted on Monday, November 10, 2008 - 10:20 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

New Orleans has a custom of partying in anticipation of a hurricane and partying while returning from a funeral. The idea is to transcend tragedy.

Maybe Detroit could form a similar custom: Celebrate natural forces overtaking obsolescence to make room for progress.

It's like nature saying "I don't care whether you think it's hopeless. You'll find yourself in a place where the only thing left for you to do is heal and grow. Live with it. Enjoy."
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Mackinaw
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Posted on Tuesday, November 11, 2008 - 9:42 am:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Well now there's a nice little plot to build a modernistic entrance atrium for the future Broderick Tower condos facing Lower Woodward.

It is duly noted that Higgins owns this property.
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1kielsondrive
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Posted on Tuesday, November 11, 2008 - 9:48 am:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Remember an old saying of Detroit and Detroiters: 'Demolition by Neglect'. Thanks to Bob McKeown.
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Motorcitydave
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Posted on Tuesday, November 11, 2008 - 9:51 am:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Amgasper01, that could be correct, I can see it from my apartment window, and I noticed the excavator digging at it.

Mackinaw, I actually thought it would help if this little building was gone (collapse or demo aside), it would make a nice spot for a dumpster at the bottom of a garbage chute, and let the renovation of the tower begin. :-)
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Detroitrise
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Posted on Tuesday, November 11, 2008 - 10:04 am:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

quote:

Well now there's a nice little plot to build a modernistic entrance atrium for the future Broderick Tower condos facing Lower Woodward.

It is duly noted that Higgins owns this property.



Let's be real here, that parcel will be a surface lots for whatever's on Woodward (likely club Bleu).
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Higgs1634
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Posted on Tuesday, November 11, 2008 - 10:07 am:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

quote:

Let's be real here, that parcel will be a surface lots for whatever's on Woodward (likely club Bleu).



If we're being real.. its just going to be an empty dirt lot with a really attractive chain link fence.
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Detroitrise
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Posted on Tuesday, November 11, 2008 - 10:13 am:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

quote:

If we're being real.. its just going to be an empty dirt lot with a really attractive chain link fence.



Nah, that's just not the Detroit style of "re-development".
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Motorcitydave
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Posted on Tuesday, November 11, 2008 - 11:52 am:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Yeah, may be Bleu is in on it...

...speaking of Bleu, I wonder how the opening of the Italian Bistro in the old Madison Theater is cutting into their valet parking options, the valets from Bleu used to have cars parked up to, and ON to the sidewalks around there some nights... looked like hell.
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Higgs1634
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Posted on Thursday, November 20, 2008 - 10:50 am:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

havent been in the area for a while, is it cleaned up yet? Just curious.
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Enduro
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Posted on Thursday, November 20, 2008 - 10:57 am:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Nope. Still there.
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Eastsideal
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I believe that building was a Church's for awhile. I vaguely remember it in the late '60s - early '70s as being an extra size shoe store. Tall-eze, maybe? Wish I could find some pictures of that part of Woodward in the 60s or 70s. Shame about the building though. Kinda liked that oh-so-early 60s roof line.
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Danny
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I was wondering who would clean up the rubble before the America's Thanksgiving Parade? It's going to broadcast LIVE on channel 4.
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Motorcitydave
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Probably not, I noticed last year that they don't seem to shoot that area... I think because the balloons have to go under the people mover track right there, so I think they just avoid it....haha.
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Sean_of_detroit
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Posted on Thursday, November 20, 2008 - 12:13 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Doesn't that building share a basement with the Broderick Tower?
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Bob
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Posted on Thursday, November 20, 2008 - 12:24 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Has anybody called the city about it?
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Mauser765
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No it didnt share a basement. Ive been in that one, twas several fast food joints in the past. Basement was nothing of note, back door opened in alley next to Broderick freight elevator. We used to climb on that roof to get in Broderick.
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Higgs1634
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Posted on Thursday, November 20, 2008 - 2:41 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

quote:

Has anybody called the city about it?



Um, the building is in the heart of Detroit's CBD. Should calling the city really be necessary? It's not like this is in some out of the way neighborhood.
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Digitalvision
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Just drove by it. Frankly, it looks like it was demolished, not fell down, to the not-in-the-know casual observer. I would like to think it'll be out before the parade, but I doubt it if they've not started on it yet.
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Sean_of_detroit
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Thanks for taking pics!

You guys should consider adding your pictures to Wikipedia.
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Posted on Wednesday, November 26, 2008 - 12:35 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Mauser765, you have been IN Broderick Tower? I love that building. Details??
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Posted on Thursday, November 27, 2008 - 10:47 am:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

So, is in gone? Do we have another gab in the fabric of lower woodward? It would be cool if someone could get ahold of it and even if they can't rebuild something right away, maybe they could make a very small plaza/park?
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Posted on Thursday, November 27, 2008 - 10:48 am:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

So parade watchers, did the mess get cleaned up in time?
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Mackinaw
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Posted on Thursday, November 27, 2008 - 12:15 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

The 1-story building next to it needs to go, too.
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Posted on Thursday, November 27, 2008 - 2:43 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I couldn't tell if all the rubble was gone, but there was wood boards up along the sidewalk, blocking a view of destruction.
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Posted on Thursday, November 27, 2008 - 4:33 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

...and here's the visual.


Next to the Broderick
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Sean_of_detroit
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Posted on Friday, November 28, 2008 - 7:39 am:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Parking lot entrances are not allowed on Lower Woodward, right?
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Posted on Friday, November 28, 2008 - 8:21 am:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

What will they be building there ?
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7051
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Posted on Friday, November 28, 2008 - 8:35 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

...an empty lot.
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401don
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...look for some pie in the sky Lonelycloud
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Posted on Sunday, November 30, 2008 - 8:45 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

What a blessing. Like Retroit said, it saves on demo. And hey if there were to be a new parking lot, more tax dollars. I may sound a little callous, but hey it's for the best.
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Posted on Sunday, November 30, 2008 - 9:19 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Parking lots; the biggest industry downtown.
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Retroit
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Posted on Sunday, November 30, 2008 - 9:37 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

If there is a demand for parking lots, that is a good sign. It means more people are venturing downtown, and full parking lots make the place look popular.

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