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Post Number: 1563
Registered: 08-2007
| | Posted on Wednesday, August 06, 2008 - 2:01 am: |    |
Just got back from Fudruckers, it was a pretty sedate gathering all evening. About 30 supporters, all expressing their sincere desire the strangle Martha Scott.
Sam Riddle was holding court in his signature avuncular way, and Mary was quite poised all evening. She seemed concerned, but thankful for all the support she did receive and while she did not concede she did say that whatever the outcome, she would respect the vote of the people.
All in all, it was the mildest victory party I've ever attended. |
Zrx_doug
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Username: Zrx_doug
Post Number: 399
Registered: 03-2008
| | Posted on Wednesday, August 06, 2008 - 2:06 am: | |
I still love ya, Gnome..I retract my motion to smack.
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Mbr
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Username: Mbr
Post Number: 423
Registered: 03-2005
| | Posted on Wednesday, August 06, 2008 - 2:12 am: | |
Change the narrative. Kilpatrick didn't win anything tonight, if anything she grossly underperformed given her money, influence, and name recognition. |
Zrx_doug
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Post Number: 400
Registered: 03-2008
| | Posted on Wednesday, August 06, 2008 - 2:20 am: | |
Yup mama Cheeks would have gotten her ass handed to her in a two-candidate race with the percentages she pulled..nowhere near her previous marks. Sorta makes me wonder if Martha Scott has collected her thirty pieces of silver yet, and whether that gets directly drawn from Cheek's war chest, or does it need to be laundered by Kwame & associates first? |
Atwater
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Post Number: 264
Registered: 09-2007
| | Posted on Wednesday, August 06, 2008 - 2:34 am: | |
Really, can Mary Waters run as an independent in the general election? |
Gnome
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Username: Gnome
Post Number: 1564
Registered: 08-2007
| | Posted on Wednesday, August 06, 2008 - 2:35 am: | |
Doug, thanx for not smacking me.
There has been a long history of bad-blood between Scott and the entire Kilpatrick Klan, so I seriously doubt Ms. Scott was paid by CCK to got in the race. Ya never know, but Martha Scott doesn't fit the profile of a judas goat.
No love here for Ms Scott. I think she's a kook, a buffoon, a pandering pustule of political posturing; just not a Quisling. |
Irish_mafia
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Username: Irish_mafia
Post Number: 1378
Registered: 10-2003
| | Posted on Wednesday, August 06, 2008 - 6:51 am: | |
The only real question is what criminal activity Kwame's mommy undertook to steal the election (like her son's surprise victory a few years ago).
We expected the electricity to go off as noted above but I don't see any reporting of it. |
Danny
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Username: Danny
Post Number: 7585
Registered: 02-2004
| | Posted on Wednesday, August 06, 2008 - 7:36 am: | |
YOU LOST MARY WATERS!
Checks Kilpatrick had WON again! See you at the general election
CHECKS KILPARTICK for the 13th state representative 2008. |
Johnlodge
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Username: Johnlodge
Post Number: 7981
Registered: 10-2003
| | Posted on Wednesday, August 06, 2008 - 8:33 am: | |
Great job Detroit! You have spoken, and we hear you loud and clear: the kleptocracy is fine by you! In fact, we need MORE Kilpatrick friends and family in government if we are really going to flush this city down the toilet in style.
quote:"It was a close race and it came down to the wire, but there's only one winner," she said. "I'll be your congresswoman until I decide to retire."
You hear that? She doesn't even NEED your votes. She will be in office until SHE decides to retire. |
Tetsua
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Post Number: 1767
Registered: 01-2004
| | Posted on Wednesday, August 06, 2008 - 8:37 am: | |
quote:You hear that? She doesn't even NEED your votes. She will be in office until SHE decides to retire.
Yeah I noticed that too, that's basically saying she'll be here until she CHOOSES to leave. |
Richard_bak
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Username: Richard_bak
Post Number: 190
Registered: 04-2008
| | Posted on Wednesday, August 06, 2008 - 8:40 am: | |
I believe that's called rubbing your face in it. And she's probably right---she'll decide when it's time to leave. |
Deteamster
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Username: Deteamster
Post Number: 147
Registered: 07-2007
| | Posted on Wednesday, August 06, 2008 - 8:49 am: | |
I'm actually pretty impressed with the results...this is a woman who would have run unchallenged for the rest of her career, as she has for the greater part of the decade.
I was actually probably going to vote for her up until a week ago, given her clout for getting money to the district.
Stop blaming Detroit voters, at least this once. This time, I think they/we did okay. If Scott didn't run, Butt-Cheeks would have been trounced. If she did this piss-poorly and isn't even directly involved in the scandal, I think this translates into just how many people are really fed up about Kwame. Detroit occupies by far the largest percentage of people of the district, so don't be so quick to cheer on the folks at the yacht club(GP) or bowling alley(downriver).
In my district, that forgettable U of Pheonix attendee Ajene lost by leaps and bounds. Kwame's boy in SW lost pretty bad too.
My biggest qualm: her arrogance. They're incorrigible. She's a wicked, nasty woman, to be sure.
The people of Detroit have spoken: you were not elected by a majority, Butt-Cheeks. Remember that. And stop playing the race card you bitch. So like you and your crime family. |
Quinn
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Username: Quinn
Post Number: 1657
Registered: 01-2005
| | Posted on Wednesday, August 06, 2008 - 8:52 am: | |
I heard that Mary Waters doesn't even live in the district.
Maybe that is one of the reasons she lost. Maybe Scott's votes would have reverted back to Kilpatrick. Maybe Waters was a weak candidate?
I find it odd that voter fraud, split ticket, and general scheming are the first things many people bring up.
I mean...look at Mary Waters. She had her celebratory rally at Fuddruckers. Come on.
Mortageking that is one of the best photoshops I've ever seen on here. |
Johnlodge
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Post Number: 7984
Registered: 10-2003
| | Posted on Wednesday, August 06, 2008 - 8:54 am: | |
Or maybe because Kilpatrick spent $500,000 (of what was probably your tax money at some point) to Waters' $10,000? |
Mrsjdaniels
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Post Number: 1100
Registered: 08-2005
| | Posted on Wednesday, August 06, 2008 - 8:54 am: | |
I cannot believe that she said that...
Waters, run independent in the fall! |
Lodgedodger
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Post Number: 246
Registered: 05-2008
| | Posted on Wednesday, August 06, 2008 - 5:43 pm: | |
Not all is lost. CK must still run against Gubics in November. |
E_hemingway
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Post Number: 1760
Registered: 11-2004
| | Posted on Wednesday, August 06, 2008 - 5:55 pm: | |
Quinn does have a point about Waters the candidate. She isn't very inspiring and didn't capitalize on her chances when on TV. Kwame mommy got very lucky that her main challenger lacked in the charisma dept. |
Richard_bak
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Post Number: 202
Registered: 04-2008
| | Posted on Wednesday, August 06, 2008 - 5:58 pm: | |
Unless Gubics can somehow convince Honda and Toyota to build new assembly plants in the district AND produces video footage of Butt-Cheeks slowly smothering a litter of new-born kittens with her Super-Sonic-Size bra, I'd say he's pretty much toast. |
Melody
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Post Number: 254
Registered: 11-2007
| | Posted on Wednesday, August 06, 2008 - 11:05 pm: | |
^^^ Hilarious.
Are you Richard Bak the author? |
Lmichigan
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Post Number: 6189
Registered: 10-2003
| | Posted on Wednesday, August 06, 2008 - 11:11 pm: | |
LOL! at Richard Bak.
It's true, though. Kilpatrick is in one of the many, many safe districts when it comes to general election time. Gubics might as well not even run. lol
Now, Waters as an independent candidate could very well have a fighting chance. That is, if Waters was an inspiring to go along with the "anyone but Kilpatrick" movement. I think it's been proven time and time again that "anyone but ____" movements need to also have a candidate that they can also vote for.
BTW, I'm not fan of Cheeks-Kilpatrick, but am I the only one off-put and disturbed by the "if we can't get the son, we'll get his mother" ideology? I find it beyond petty and ultimately illogical.
(Message edited by lmichigan on August 06, 2008) |
Richard_bak
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Post Number: 214
Registered: 04-2008
| | Posted on Wednesday, August 06, 2008 - 11:23 pm: | |
I'm Richard Bak the ex-factory rat (see the other post re factory experiences). I also write a little. |
Ltorivia485
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Post Number: 3009
Registered: 08-2004
| | Posted on Wednesday, August 06, 2008 - 11:25 pm: | |
If Cheeks Kilpatrick goes back to Washington in November, this should be a wake-up call to her. Folks in Detroit and suburbs are listening and watching. If she doesn't improve in her seventh term, people will not hesitate to vote her out next time. 61% of her district voted against her in the primary. That's a sign right there that folks are fed up.
Yes, I do think attacking the mother of the embattled son is not fully right, but she had the chance to encourage her son to do the right thing and RESIGN so that Michigan would not be an embarassment in the international spotlight. She knew Kwame was corrupt and continued to accept his lies, adultery, and arrogance in the name of political power, the Kilpatrick clan. Again, what has she done for her district besides chair the Congressional Black Caucus and sit on the House Appropriations Committee? I know Congress works on a seniority level but if she hasn't done anything for her district (no one knows where the money went), she is a no-good leader. This could have all been avoided. She is partially guilty for her son's wrongdoings too. |
Danny
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Post Number: 7586
Registered: 02-2004
| | Posted on Wednesday, August 06, 2008 - 11:26 pm: | |
One of KING KWAME'S QUEEN MOTHER KILPATRICK is back in action in her 13th district kingdom. She rules all, GOD SAVE THE QUEEN, LONG LIVE THE QUEEN. |
Richard_bak
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Post Number: 215
Registered: 04-2008
| | Posted on Wednesday, August 06, 2008 - 11:37 pm: | |
Melody---you're not my nephew Jeremy's friend, are you? |
Downtown_lady
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Registered: 08-2008
| | Posted on Thursday, August 07, 2008 - 12:01 am: | |
Quote from Lmichigan: "BTW, I'm not fan of Cheeks-Kilpatrick, but am I the only one off-put and disturbed by the "if we can't get the son, we'll get his mother" ideology? I find it beyond petty and ultimately illogical."
Lmichigan, I completely agree with you in theory, that a person should not be held accountable for what someone else does.
However, the extenuating circumstances in this case make me look at it differently. As I mentioned on another thread, CCK's son has been indicted on eight felony counts, her daughter ran a questionable "charity" that gave the majority of its money to the people running the charity (including Ayanna and Carlita), her son-in-law is a recently-released felon, and her ex-husband is now being investigated by the FBI.
Given all that, I find it increasingly difficult to believe that she is not corrupt as well. There is corruption all around her, but we're supposed to believe that she is (a) completely innocent and (b) completely unaware of everything that her family is doing. I'm just not buying it -- she's probably the one that taught her kids how to skim a little off the top. |
Lmichigan
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Post Number: 6191
Registered: 10-2003
| | Posted on Thursday, August 07, 2008 - 2:37 am: | |
I'm not sure I necessarily disagree that it seems possible that she's corrupt, but I'm not sure I'd go into all of the personal insinuations (i.e. she taught her children to cheat and steal, etc...) I guess everyone chooses who and what they vote on, I'd just wish that if she's an ineffective representative for the 13th district that that would be the reason to oust her. All of the other stuff is assumption and insinuation unless/until she can be linked to her family's shady dealings. I don't think that's being naive, but being fair. I can tell you, for instance, that I certainly didn't hold Bill Clinton's issues against his wife during the primaries. |
Mauser765
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Post Number: 3055
Registered: 01-2004
| | Posted on Thursday, August 07, 2008 - 6:41 am: | |
"We need a run-off election system"
Nationwide - its our only hope. |
Melody
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Post Number: 256
Registered: 11-2007
| | Posted on Thursday, August 07, 2008 - 10:33 am: | |
"Melody---you're not my nephew Jeremy's friend, are you?"
Yes! I write a little too |
English
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Post Number: 766
Registered: 10-2003
| | Posted on Thursday, August 07, 2008 - 10:57 am: | |
Actually, your hope is to get a viable challenger next time. If not, people in the city (especially the elderly) are going to go with the "devil they know".
You also can't underestimate the # of the electorate in the 13th that feels CCK's pain -- many elderly Detroit women have children and other relatives that have had run-ins with the law, and have felt the stigma and embarassment. They may not feel that CCK was responsible for the mess her son made of things when she handed him a political career on a silver platter.
NOT saying I necessarily agree -- just explaining the mindset. |
Richard_bak
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Post Number: 223
Registered: 04-2008
| | Posted on Thursday, August 07, 2008 - 11:29 am: | |
Melody B??•••
I miss seeing you at the occassional family gathering. That Jeremy!
Keep up the good work. I can say I know a famous writer! |
Melody
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Username: Melody
Post Number: 257
Registered: 11-2007
| | Posted on Thursday, August 07, 2008 - 3:06 pm: | |
Thank you! |
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