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David7750
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Posted on Saturday, July 05, 2008 - 11:18 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)


Demoliton of Tiger Stadium begins - post your memories..

photo by: David L. Malhalab
M News Service / MNS Photo

June 30, 2008
Demolition of Historic Detroit Tiger Stadium begins.

An 8' hole in the exterior center field area of Tiger Stadium was gashed open by demolition crews eager to destroy this historic structure - while the Tiger were out of town and city hall was shut down.
The 'green' of Bennett, Navin Field and Briggs Stadium can be seen just to the right of the hole inside the blue outer shell. Construction equipment and lighting is standing just outside center field - ready to smash down history, memories and a field of dreams..

For over 100 years the Stadium entertained 100,000,000 people at a variety of events, it was
abandoned and left vacant to begin 'demolition by neglect' in 1999, by Mike Ilitch owner of the Detroit Tigers and the City of Detroit.

Please donate to help save the historic Detroit Tiger Stadium for information....

WWW.SAVETIGERSTADIUM.ORG
WWW.PRESERVETIGERSTADIUM.COM

MYFOXDETROIT: read on...

The dark forces of corruption that have marked the 'demolition by neglect' of Tiger Stadium are winning. Since 1999, when Tiger Stadium was closed, the City has made no serious effort to encourage development or use of the Stadium as and entertainment venue - because Mike Ilitch, owner of the Tigers, Red Wings and Little Caesar's Pizza didn' want competition for his entertainment facilities.

Ilitch the billionaire and his wife, who owns Motor City Casino a baseball throw away, a short stroll to the 'field of dreams' should have developed the Stadium as another premiere entertainment facility -develop it as an historic site, that would draw tourists to Detroit, but NO - Ilitch took $420,000 a year ($2-$12 million dollars) for the maintenance and security of Tiger Stadium since 1999 and allowed it to fall into disrepair and neglect. Is Ilitch a FELON??. The FBI has been asked to investigate. You should boycott - Little Caesar's Pizza.

Ken Cockrel, Jr, president of the Detroit City Council said, "your boy (Peter C. Riley) was right. He (Ilitch) owes us the money, and I will do everything to get it back"... that was over a year ago. Before the Detroit Economic Growth Corporation members - LIED - to the Detroit Planning Commission in a presentation of their case for demolition.

The Commission knew they were being lied to - and rejected the Corporation proposal - for demolition. That was before Scott of the DEGC - LIED - to the Corktown Residents Council, telling them that it was 'too dangerous' for their members to tour Tiger Stadium, for a fact finding effort.

There have been numerous proposals to utilize, renovate and preserve Tiger Stadium, but the City never fully cooperated with the proponents - allowing Tiger Stadium to sit idle and decay.

The final chapter in the history of Tiger Stadium maybe demolition, but it may also include information on 'convictions' of Ilitch, George Jackson and others who allowed a City jewel to be demolished and left only as a memory of what was, what might and could have been.

Maybe their will be Justice - for historic Tiger Stadium, but I still want the Stadium.

FOR MORE INFO: WWW.PRESERVETIGERSTADIUM.COM,
WWW.SAVETIGERSTADIUM.ORG

FOR for a copy of the Tiger Stadium documentary -'STRANDED AT THE CORNER',
contact: Peter C. Riley (313 402 4565).
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Jrvass
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Posted on Sunday, July 06, 2008 - 12:12 am:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

This Illitch bashing is a load of crap.

It was either Fetzer or Monaghan that sold Detroit the stadium for $1. Yes, One Dollar.

When Illitch bought the team he made some superficial improvements to the stadium. He had tours when the Tiger's were "away". Made a food & drink court at the MI & Trumbull entrance.

He saw the writing on the wall, that the Tigers could not be competitive with ever increasing player salaries, without a modern stadium. Thus Comerica was built.

As far as the "protection" of Tiger Stadium is concerned, the City of Detroit could have hired whoever they wanted. Cops, Brinks, Illitch's firm, or the Tiger Stadium Fan Club. Their choice. They bought the place for $1.

So they (The City of Detroit) fiddle-fuck around for 8 years while the stadium rusts away. Is that Illitch's fault?

Hell no!

By this time next year, old Yankee Stadium will be hauled away to make a parking lot for new Yankee Stadium. Steinbrenner will have another All-Star game before Comerica has it's second.

Change Tiger Stadium, Navin Field, Bennett Park... back to it's original use as a hay-market. With the price of gas, we'll be riding horses soon.

If you're so torn up, go get a brick from the demolition pile and put it on top of your mantle, TV, or under your pillow.

Illitch doesn't own and spend the coin for his teams to lose.

Go buy a season ticket from Bill Ford for that. The only championship teams in the Silverdome was the Michigan Panthers and the Pittsburgh Steelers practice team for the Super Bowl.

Better yet. Go down to City Clowncil and offer them $2 for Tiger Stadium. A 100% profit! And it'll be your headache.

Thank me very much.
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The_lady_in_blue
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Posted on Sunday, July 06, 2008 - 12:48 am:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

In response to Melocoton, obviously there isn't a lot we CAN do in a practical sense, but we can do a lot to create a climate wherein it is harder for the "bad guys" to function.

We can refuse collectively to accept the lies we are told in the media. We can move outside of the safe boundaries of online forums to witness wherever we can to situations where private interest, interest that represents a numerical minority, is served before the interest of the general public. We can write letters, call radio stations, and petition government officials that function outside of Detroit. We can gather information and feed it to investigative reporters from out-state and out-of-state newspapers -- papers that are not under the same influence that are local media -- and do our best to convince them that there is enough dissatisfaction with what is going on to make a printable, sellable story. In short, we can make as much noise as possible. And, most of all, we can look at the artificial honors heaped on the heads of some of the people who have done nothing that is not self serving, and say, LOUDLY AND CLEARLY, "Give us a (your choice of expletive) break. We weren't born yesterday."

Much of what happens in Detroit, happens because people have been fooled into thinking various gestures are altruistic. If we give the lie to those claims often enough, we will at least make it harder for the same people to play us for fools again.
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Rhymeswithrawk
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Posted on Sunday, July 06, 2008 - 4:18 am:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Much of what happens in Detroit, happens because people have been fooled into thinking various gestures are altruistic.

No, much of what happens in Detroit is because the city is completely and utterly corrupt, run by a pay-for-play government voted into office by an electorate of uneducated, apathetic voters. I mean, how else can you explain the elections of Monica Conyers and Martha Reeves, the latter of whom told the Free Press that she changed her vote on the tunnel solely because Barbara-Rose Collins told her to and has admitted to not knowing about key issues? Obviously, they were elected based on name-only, which is no surprise in a city that also elected to the Legislature Virgil Smith Jr. and Coleman Young Jr. (nee Joel Loving), two men who had little to no experience.
Compounding the problem is a City Council voted for at-large instead of by wards, leaving large swaths of the city - such as the Southwest side, which would get the Synagro sewage treatment facility - unrepresented on the council.
So yes, there is some fooling and lying and thieving going on, but there are a TON more problems than just a simple lie about Tiger Stadium.
-A Detroiter, not a suburbanite
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Reddog289
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I,ll go back to my saying about the old car you don,t drive anymore. things rust you can either fix them or scrap them, but the longer that old car sits and does nothing it has no use the way it is. I do not blame Illitch, he,s in business to make money, If you don,t drive a car why put gas in it, hell the man don,t even own the place. I don,t hear people yelling about members of the Moose Lodge about the shape their building is in, or the Castle, every building in this city and even the burbs has memories to people. As i see it and hate to look at it, i.ll see a big empty lot at the corner, but i,ll know that baseball was played there.
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Histeric
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Posted on Sunday, July 06, 2008 - 6:46 am:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Talk is good, but hitting the donate button is better. The last chance to save the field and a meaningful piece of the stadium rests with this organization. Please consider hitting the button and sending the link to your friends and family. With millions of people who have made their memories in the stadium, the only way this will fail is if we allow our anger over the way it was handled thru two administrations to interfere with the RIGHT NOW.

http://www.savetigerstadium.or g
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Plymouthres
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Posted on Sunday, July 06, 2008 - 11:01 am:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Histeric/Lady-

I applaud your efforts and your attempt to save this historic landmark for posterity. I wish more could be done to assist you in your efforts, but I am afraid that the people who could most easily have saved the stadium are long gone, having abandoned the city many years ago.

They are now living comfortably in suburbia, where they could care less what horrors occur in a city that they no longer frequent. Many of our historic places in Detroit have fallen into the same category for them. They are so apathetic that this type of destruction doesn't even phase them anymore. Lets face it, they are the ones with the cash to save those structures, but they just couldn't be bothered.

I also think that the degradation and failure to maintain the structures of not only Tiger Stadium, but almost every historic structure in the city, is a sign of the not only the financial bankrupcy but the moral bankrupcy that exists in Detroit today. This type of absurd neglect occurs more often than not, and is indicative of the mindset of a city that would rather forget its past than preserve it.

I am appalled every time I go downtown at the neglect that I see all around. Yesterday, for instance, we walked from the River Walk (brand new and beautiful!) down Woodward to the Park Bar. Along the way, as we walked down Woodward, were the shells of many fine examples of the architecture that so adequately describes the once vibrant city that Detroit was. Each one of them was in varying states of disrepair, even though many dedicated preservationists have fought the battle to restore or save them, such as yourself and Ndavies have tried at the Vinton. Most appalling was that, despite these efforts, no one else is coming to help save them, and while being rehabbed, have been ravaged by scrappers and who knows what else. The still broken-out window on the Athlete's Foot store was most amazing to me, as it indicates the "brokeness" of the city government and it's inability to stop those happenings.

It is up to a very few dedicated souls, such as yourselves, to do the work that many should be helping out with.

I see it every day at Fort Wayne, another piece of history that is disintegrating one brick at a time, right before my eyes. My wife and I, along with a very dedicated group of volunteers, both from this forum and the Historic Fort Wayne Coalition, have put literally thousands of hours toward the fort in the last five years, but we have to beg the city to just cut the grass for the events that are held there. The approach down Livernois between Fort and Jefferson is enough to illustrate to any suburbanite who ventures there that the city does not care, and is a great example of the urban blight that exists everywhere you turn downtown.

As in the case of Tiger Stadium, the train station and many, many other structures in the city, the corrupt governments and land grabbers would have shuttered the fort and let it rot if it were not for that dedication displayed by a handful of volunteers that believe that we are preserving the "Arsenal of Democracy" for future generations.

Even the Tuskegee Airmen cannot get a break, as they only got a new roof for their museum after it leaked for over a year and threatened to destroy priceless and irreplacable exhibits.

The same holds true for the stadium, which stood, neglected, for years as the ravages of weather and time slowly destroyed it. Even with your valiant efforts, and efforts of those of us who have donated to the conservancy funds and attended the protests to save the structure, the day of reckoning has come and now there will be nothing left of a place that held over 75 years of Detroit baseball tradition in the same place.

Shame on them for their neglect.

COPA is a great place to carry on the tradition of baseball, but it will never hold the same intrinsic historical value that Tiger Stadium held. I regret that more could not be done to save the stadium from the wrecking ball, but it is the way of this city to destroy it's past in a effort to make something new of their own.

Good luck in your efforts, but I am afraid that they are in vain, as this city could care less about their past, and stumbles toward their future with uncertainty, ignoring the rich history all around it as it seeks to rebuild itself anew.
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Jt1
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Posted on Sunday, July 06, 2008 - 11:46 am:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I wish I had the luxury to live in a world where the economics of project could be ignored.

To date there has not been a single economically feasible plan offered for TS.

I ask of all the people whining about its demise: How much have you donated? Tears don't count as real currency.
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Burnsie
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Sean_of_detroit wrote, "Book-Caddillac on the other hand was said to be saved from day one."

Excerpt from Free Press article, 5/21/93:

"LANDMARK BOOK-CADILLAC IS ON HIT LIST DEMOLISHING HOTEL PART OF PLAN TO ERASE DOWNTOWN BLIGHT

The historic but vacant Book-Cadillac Hotel would be demolished soon by the City of Detroit as part of a sweeping plan to erase blight and shore up ailing but viable projects downtown. The Downtown Development Authority, the city's development agency, is asking the City Council to authorize $4.5 million to tear down the massive hotel. Built in 1924, the city-owned hotel has been closed since 1984. If the funding is approved, the hotel could come down as early as this year..."
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Rhymeswithrawk
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Posted on Sunday, July 06, 2008 - 4:12 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

It also was on CAY's hit list in 1984, Burnsie. Preservation has never been one of this city's strong suits.
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Jjaba
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Burnsie, excellent post. Now the Book-Cadillac is under rennovation. Never say never, eh.

jjaba.
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Rhymeswithrawk
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Posted on Sunday, July 06, 2008 - 4:33 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Sadly, I think it is safe to say never for Tiger Stadium. Though I did chip in my donation to try to save at least the field.
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Burnsie
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Rhymeswithrawk-- Mayor Young actually was fully supportive of early efforts to re-open the Book-Cadillac. Excerpt from the Freep archive:
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LOSS OF UDAG GRANT STYMIES BOOK CADILLAC
April 12, 1988
"Loss of a major federal grant has once again placed the future of the Book Cadillac Hotel in downtown Detroit in limbo. As of March 31, the U.S. Department of Housing and Urban Development killed an $8.9 million Urban Development Action Grant earmarked for the hotel. The City of Detroit has tried at least since 1986, when the grant was first approved, to interest a developer in the project..."
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Sean_of_detroit
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Okay, that wasn't exactly what I meant. I guess your right, that would have been the real day one.

I said that wrong, sorry.

I was referring to the promises and intentions by the current administration.
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Ravine
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I want to give Jrvass a thumbs-up for the defense of Mike Ilitch. Along with the other millions of dollars which the man has spent around here-- and, what can you say about a guy who takes in millions of dollars in a community and turns around and invests piles & piles of that money right back into that same community (anybody remember what the venerable old Fox Theater looked like before its renovation?)-- Ilitch plunged quite a few millions into sprucing up Tiger Stadium, just for the sake of making it presentable during its final seasons. Obviously, despite his own love for, and sentimental attachment to, the truly wonderful Tiger Stadium, he concluded that it would be a bad business move to continue trying to keep the team there. It ain't like he, immediately after buying the team, callously declared, "Piss on Tiger Stadium, I'm taking my team and heading for the 'burbs." Could we give the guy some goddam credit? A little respect, even? I think it is real fuckin' stupid to characterize the man as some kind of ravening profiteer. He knows how to make sound investments, follows up on them, increases their value, and (the best part of all) re-invests a great deal of the profits RIGHT HERE IN DETROIT. Under those circumstances, it seems to me that the guy would be canonized by some of the more zealously pro-Detroit members of this forum. To the contrary, half-witted & snarky attacks on his motives and character are asserted, and few voices are raised in his defense.
With so many scoundrels & low-lifes having crawled, like serpents, through the halls of our city government, business community, police department, school board, and God-knows-where-all-else, all trying to take advantage of the already-downtrodden and despairing citizens of our city in an effort to line their pockets before hitting the road out of town, here we have one man who literally puts his money where his mouth is, puts a lot of that money back into the community wherein he earned it, and the thanks he gets is a slap in the face from a collection of crab-bucket fault-finders whose nasty attitude toward him is, most likely, just a bunch of envy over the fact that he's rich as hell and they're not, never mind the oh-so-relevant fact that he wasn't born into the money, he fucking worked for it, which indicates a strength of character probably not possessed by most of his mouthy detractors.
That's one of the major problems afflicting Detroit: too many sorry-asses who have convinced themselves that somebody else is responsible for their sad plight, and that success, gobs of cash, and all manner of creature-comforts are owed to them and should be delivered forthwith.
Shut up, damn it.
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Jrvass
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Posted on Monday, July 07, 2008 - 9:43 am:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Ravine,

Well said. Illitch was also a minor leaguer with the Tigers before he started Little Caesar's in Garden City... or somewhere down there.

2 True facts:

1. After they bought the Tiger's from Monaghan, they had on the schedule "Mom's & Kids run the bases after the game" on Mother's Day. I bought 3 tickets and took Mom & Dad. We were told that I couldn't go on the field because I was too old to be a kid. Bullshit. I'm her kid. She's a mom.

Long story short, the next day I'm on the phone with Denise Illitch Lites. She sends me 3 tickets for free to the Father's Day game, and declares that day to be "Dads & kids run the bases (no age restriction)". The line to do that stretched 3/4 of the way around the stadium, so we blew it off and took the Tiger Stadium tour in August.

2. A friend of mine, husband, hanged himself in their barn. Tammy was left with 3 little hockey players, 2 girls and a boy, 6-12ish.

I explained this to the woman who answered the phone at Illitch Children's Charities.

Although it couldn't replace a father, they got suite tickets to a game, autographed merchandise, and visits from their hockey heroes.

I talked to Tammy later, and she was so happy that the Red Wings took an interest in her children. I didn't tell her that I instigated it with the help of the department secretary.

The Illitch's are very nice people. I don't know them personally. But try and find an employee who bad mouth's them like the people on this forum.

Scotty Bowman- nope
Stevie Y.- nope
Ken Holland- nope
Dave Dombrowski- nope
Jim Leyland- nope

You could go on and on. You'll not find one person on their payroll who feels cheated.
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Ravine
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Jrvass: Right. If some of the bigmouths who jump into this forum and rave about how much they deliriously love Detroit had ever even THOUGHT about maybe possibly one day doing even so much as 1/10,000th of what Ilitch has actually DONE in, and for, this city, that thought would represent the first pro-Detroit thing they had done that didn't begin & end with their mouths running like a pigeon's ass.
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Richie
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Remember the quote from the demolition of Pennsylvania Station in the 1960's. "We will be judged not by the monuments we build but by those that we destroy". Lady-in-blue on a note of global sadness, the "Blue Lady" Aka "Norway" is at this very moment being torn to pieces on the shores of India. There were efforts to save this too that failed. I sure hope the future generation appreciates the "uniqueness" of chain and big box stores because there sure isn't going to be much else for them to see.
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Flybydon
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http://www.clickondetroit.com/ news/16748777/detail.html
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Urbanoutdoors
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I just drove by and the left field wall is being demolished. The wall is gone closest to center.
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Harpernottingham
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Had to happen sooner or later. But we can all still save a portion of it:

http://www.savetigerstadium.or g/donate.htm

FYI, to dispel any misinformation, OTSC chairman Dan Varner said yesterday on WDET that the Conservancy is to report to Mayor Kilpatrick Aug. 1 regarding their fundraising attempts.

Assuming the Conservancy has scrapped together roughly $400,000 by then, the next "deadline" after that comes in October, when they'll know if Sen. Carl Levin has been able to secure the necessary federal earmarks.

The Conservancy hopes to gain 501(c)(3) status within the next 30 days, and Levin is helping them with that, as well.

So even though the stadium is slowly being dismantled as we speak (er, type), they still sound optimistic, and so am I.

The OTSC is the stadium's best bet, and although it's not (yet?) in charge of the stadium, it IS conceivable that the DEGC might turn over title to them or at least enter into a long-term lease.
(This, again, according to Dan Varner yesterday on 'DET.)

Once again:
http://www.savetigerstadium.or g/donate.htm

Please spread the word and think positive ...

See y'all at the Anchor next week.
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Detroitrise
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You know, I wonder how New Yorkers feel about the (soon to be) old Yankee Stadium...
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Harpernottingham
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Surely the Naked City is full of as many if not more crackpots like us. After all, it IS the House the Ruth Built. (They built it, of course, after Ruth and his antics drove the Giants nuts and they refused to share the Polo Grounds with the Yankees any longer.)
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401don
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Meanwhile in the Model D article this wk the conservancy is saying to hold off on donations for 30 days until they know more about the federal money. Talk about disorganized and confusing.
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D_mcc
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Jrvass...

If Detroit could no compete without a modern stadium...

Can you please explain The Boston Red Sox and the Chicago Cubs?????????????

As my dad said for the first 8 years...and even now...of the Copas exsistance...

"I would rather have a great team in that old ball park...than this horrible team in this new ugly stadium"
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D_mcc
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Harper...

Of every NYer I know...They are glad to see it gone simply because the stadium was essentially Brand new in 1976 when they gutted, and rebuilt the old girl.

They are more excited about the NEW Yankee Stadium, as it returns the stadium, albeit upgraded...to its pre-76 settings...
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Detroitstar
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D_mcc, are you calling the Chicago Cubs a succesful franchise? LOL!! The red sox recent success does a little bit to justify things, but it all honesty Fenway Park is lame. I have been there about 10 times and the only game I enjoyed was watching the Tigers spank them like 10-1.
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Urbanoutdoors
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http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/ne ws?slug=ap-tigerstadium-demoli tion&prov=ap&type=lgns
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David7750
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July 9, 2008 - Demoliton continues - historic Detroit Tiger Stadium - seats are visible ???


JULY 9, 2008
Demolition of historic Detroit Tiger Stadium continues - a hole in the wall and our memories are let out.. Write down your memories on this blog page.
photo by: David L. Malhalab, M News Service / MNS Photo

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Why are there still seats left in historic Detroit Tiger Stadium - when hundreds of people wanted to buy them during the auction of memorabilia that netted the City of Detroit only $300,000.,(undocumented).?????

Is this payment for the demolition crews that have to pay the City $300,000. if the entire Stadium is demolished?

How much are the remaining seats worth?

And still the TRUTH hasn't been told by the Media - about the lies by Tom Monaghan, the City, Mike Ilitch, Ken Cockrel, George Jackson and the Detroit Economic Growth Corporation.

Its time Ernie Harwell(w/o Spicer,Mickey Briggs, the Fetzer Foundation, the Baseball Hall of Fame, and others to step up and condemn publicly - the demoliton of historic Detroit Tiger Stadium and tell the Truth as they know it.
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David7750
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JULY 9, 2008
Demolition of historic Detroit Tiger Stadium continues - a hole in the wall and our memories are let out.. Write down your memories on this blog page.
photo by: David L. Malhalab, M News Service / MNS Photo

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Why are there still seats left in historic Detroit Tiger Stadium - when hundreds of people wanted to buy them during the auction of memorabilia that netted the City of Detroit only $300,000.,(undocumented).?????

Is this payment for the demolition crews that have to pay the City $300,000. if the entire Stadium is demolished?

How much are the remaining seats worth?

And still the TRUTH hasn't been told by the Media - about the lies by Tom Monaghan, the City, Mike Ilitch, Ken Cockrel, George Jackson and the Detroit Economic Growth Corporation.

Its time Ernie Harwell(w/o Spicer,Mickey Briggs, the Fetzer Foundation, the Baseball Hall of Fame, and others to step up and condemn publicly - the demoliton of historic Detroit Tiger Stadium and tell the Truth as they know it.
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David7750
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Posted on Wednesday, July 09, 2008 - 3:18 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)


July 9, 2008 - Demolition expands at historic Detroit Tiger Stadium - seats visible???

JULY 9, 2008
Demolition of historic Detroit Tiger Stadium continues - a hole in the wall and our memories are let out.. Write down your memories on this blog page.
photo by: David L. Malhalab, M News Service / MNS Photo

**************************************************
Why are there still seats left in historic Detroit Tiger Stadium - when hundreds of people wanted to buy them during the auction of memorabilia that netted the City of Detroit only $300,000.,(undocumented).?????

Is this payment for the demolition crews that have to pay the City $300,000. if the entire Stadium is demolished?

How much are the remaining seats worth?

And still the TRUTH hasn't been told by the Media - about the lies by Tom Monaghan, the City, Mike Ilitch, Ken Cockrel, George Jackson and the Detroit Economic Growth Corporation.

Its time Ernie Harwell (w/o Spicer), Mickey Briggs, the Fetzer Foundation, the Baseball Hall of Fame, and others to step up and condemn publicly - the demolition of historic Detroit Tiger Stadium and tell the Truth as they know it.
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Dnvn522
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Posted on Friday, July 11, 2008 - 2:10 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Wow...deja vu...twice.

;)
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Sumas
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rhymeswithrawk, thank you for articulating my thoughts regarding Virgil Smith Jr and Coleman Young Jr. They run on daddy's name and get elected. Two more useless legislators on public dole.