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Morena
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Brian:

I need to correct some of your inaccuracies.

First, you said DPS had a balanced budget in the final year of the elected goverment. Wrong.

DPS, like the City of Detroit, does not officially close their books until November or December. That means that the CEO publicly announces that it's books are balanced but it isn't confirmed until the audit is completed and the management letter is attached.

The elected government did not conduct the Comprehensive Annual Financial Report (CAFR) for 97-98 school year. This is why they were able to report a $90 million surplus.

Finally, the elected body was removed just after the mid-point of the 98-99 school year and the appointed school board took over in March 1999. The 98-99 school year ended in a deficit. I don't know if it's fair to put the blame on Adamany or the appointed body.

Second, your reference to Hendrix allowing a republican to be the president of the school board is wrong. During his tenure, Hendrix was always the chairman of the school board.

BTW: Adamany was a great leader, despite what the DFT thought. Maybe that's why Temple University made him President!

And if Duggan was stealing money, you should have reported him so he could be arrested and tossed in jail! I guess you and DPD couldn't prove it.

Now, this part is going to painful for you and McPhail supporters. David McSnead used his power as DPS CEO to arrange his wedding at Breithupft Vocational Center. McPhail knew this and supported McSnead abusing his authority. In addition, McPhail knew and supported McSnead further abusing his authority by sending out gift registeries and wedding invitations to every DPS principal and administrator and expected them to buy the couple something expensive!

I'm not here to support or bash the Mayor, Hendrix, or McPhail but your excited utterances must be corrected.
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Brian
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BD, Hendrix and his people, like you, want to criticize others for their employment in government or positions of appointment but at the same time use Hendrix' positions and appointments as positive reasons for his support. You can't have it both ways. If public employment and appointments are performing public service than Hendrix has no better of a record on those points than either of his opponents.

Morena, you are right, I said president and I meant CEO. But the rest of your post is a fabrication. Snead was never the CEO. The surplus is on the books as certified by the State of Michigan. IF you want to rewrite history you will have to call the Engler administration and ask why they also agreed that there was a surplus. Besides your slurs you have repeated a lie about the wedding created by Duggan for his political campaign. Snead could not abise his authority, he was in charge of the DPS and he had to obtain permission from the elected board. Something the CEO's enacted during the time of Hendrix never had to do. As for the invitations and the expectations, what you stated is completely untrue, but you could produce this invitation you claim exists.




In fact, a former employee of the McNamara administration has stated that Mike Duggan and Bernard Kilpatrick fabricated the wedding story (which was actually a reception, I believe the wedding was held elsewhere) as fed to the media in order to generate negative material on Sharon McPhail. They were not, as no one has ever been able to, find any negative skeletons or scandals on McPhail and instead had to fabricate an issue. Dr. Snead paid all fees required and refused to allow any DPS contractors to make any contributions. The school used and the students are/were among the top in the country. It’s a culinary school and produces highly trained individuals that usually requires years of experience and college level course work. Holding the reception there was a way for Dr. Snead to draw publicity to what the school could and does accomplish. There was a time when the public could eat lunch at the school. I don’t know if Burnley stopped the practice as he has decimated many programs in the DPS.

Further, the school at the time could be reserved for a fee. All fees were paid by Dr. Snead’s own personal funds. Additionally there is a memo which is from Dr. Snead and addressed to ALL DPS staff (at the time May 1995) which stated that he has heard that some supervisors were asking their staff for donations to provide a wedding gift. He states that he never authorized nor requested anyone to do so on his behalf. The memo further states that anyone who wants to give a gift should do so on their own behalf and of their own choosing. (This directly contradicts your post.)

Additionally, there exists a memo which states that the Detroit News was told information which was not true. Someone told the Detroit News and a school vendor donated food for the reception. But the Detroit News asked the vendor directly and the vendor stated that there was no donation and that everything was purchased. (Somebody was feeding bogus information to the News. At the time, the Freep ran the most stories on this topic. Perhaps because Duggan had a relative who worked at the paper and was in charge of what went into print.)

Bernard Kilpatrick and Mike Duggan are not above lying to get what they want. But it seems with the leaks from the Hendrix campaign that he also will feed the media false stories on his opponents in order to generate negative publicity.
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Amelia
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Brian: Be careful about charges of other candidates leaking lies to the media. It seems you have your fact sheet prepared for debate on THE WEDDING that didn't happen. I would like the one on the accusation by your candidate sharon that the Mayor rigged her chair with the intent to do bodily harm to her. I watched her on Flashpoint while she said she was only JOKING! I don't see anything funny about these charges. Can you produce a memo on this?
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Brian
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If you watched Flashpoint then you would have seen her say that she never accused the mayor of rigging her chair. Go see the video again.

What you should have seen, if you were watching, is that she stated that while the media was there to interview her about another issue, she noticed the wiring on her chair. Her staff began to invesigate why the wiring was stripped and the media (paraphrasing) asked her if she thought the mayor was behind it and she stated she wouldn't put it past him. She told the media that the mayor was a bully, during the interview, because one of the issues before council had the mayor coming to her office attempting to pressure her to vote in his favor. The media took two issues, combined them and the chair story was born.

The joke was that she stated 'she wouldn't put it past him' (because he is a bully). She said she would stop joking because apparently only a few folks get a joke when filtered through the media eager to produce a good story.

As for leaking, you need to understand what is a leak and an issue. Going on TV and making a statement is no leak. Calling a reporter, not giving your name and having your friends call the same reporter to repeat the information you provided even though its not accurate or true information is a leak. Then other leaks could be true. Such as the story about the party at the mayors mansion. Which came from the lawyers suing the mayor and the city.

I would tell you to be careful about repeating things you clearly did not see or are only going by memory.

Look at the video AGAIN.
http://www.sharonandbenny.com/ video/2004_1219_flashpoint/200 4_1219_flashpoint_small.wmv
This file is about 3 Mb. You can download it to your computer and play it locally if you don't have the bandwidth to view it across the net.
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Amelia
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Brian: I don't give a rats azz about your definition of "leak", save it for your Head Start kids and others who drink red kool aid!!! The Flashpoint was clean up for all the other CAT screams she made to anybody who would listen --- gaddis, metrotimes, people on the elevators, people at the car wash .... Do you have those videos? As far as what I didn't see or hear , you might be surprised who talks to sharon. I do.
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Romanized
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Brian
Clinton was widely panned by liberals for "acting" like a republican. But Detroit can take a lesson from him and other democratic mayors and unload half of its current obligations and then cut taxes.
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Amelia
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Absolutely!!! Most "new" democrats have been risking their political careers trying to carry Clinton's ark, but can't figure out how he did it while being loved by all. Have you seen him and old man Bush kickin' it lately?? Thing is, if the dems don't let the next generation of those like John Edwards, Barak Obama, etc. lead the party we will need a third party. Now here sits Detroit with it's old, rusting, crumbling bones who refuses to bury the dead. How can any mayor breath life back, give hope back to a people who have the keys to their prison but won't use them. It takes a King of Kings to do it. Who you gonna' vote for now? What we gonna' do boss? Don't GO FIGURE .. ASK AMELIA!
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Brian
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So you talk to Sharon Amelia but you don't believe what she says. According to your own written words. Before you go on the attack, know your issue. You, like others here, attack when you can't address the points made. But your sources are a minority in Detroit. "gaddis, metrotimes, people on the elevators, people at the car wash" do not equate to a majority or even a large amount of Detroit voters.

While Clinton was criticized for not trying to introduce socialized government he had the full support of the democrats in both of his terms. Can't say the same for Gore or Kerry or Dean or the others. Clinton was successful because he listened to what the people wanted. Not just what his financial supporters wanted. Those persons who fail to understand that will fail in politics.
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Amelia
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Brian: You are so clueless and confused. Slick Willie didn't care what people wanted, not to mention Hillary! He was a pimp in the White House and don't you forget it!!! Those who understand it will do well in politics.
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Bindetroit
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Brian spun: "If you watched Flashpoint then you would have seen her say that she never accused the mayor of rigging her chair. Go see the video again."

But Mcphail DID accuse KK. Check THAT video. So what that in this video she denies it. Was she lying then or is she lying know? Or, as Sharon is wont to do, can she have it both ways and be lying both times? Is THAT the power of two?
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Brian
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BD, you should check the video. Sharon McPhail never said that the mayor did anything to her chair. The only thing she stated is that she would not put it past him. She also refered to him (or called him) a bully.

At least there is video to check. Hendrix won't release the video's which show him not having the support of the community.
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Rasputin
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Brian & Amelia: little known factoid .... Detroit House Rep votes were traded for federal granting of permission to open a casino here; hence a federal "death penalty" brought in under Clinton .... Go figure ... on who it's being used on the most!!

Black-atcha ..... btw: Clinton was another JFK; Black folk's worst enemy, "wolves" dressed up in sheeps clothing ... each just happened to be the least of the 2 "evils running @ the time.

Addendum: a quote from a book about South Africa during the pre-apartheid/WW2 period:

quote:

... but when the African National Congress pointed out Herr Hitler thought even less of Blacks than he did the Jews, they [Blacks]realized that in a moment of any victories they were going to be in trouble, so gradually they transferred moral support to the English [Democrats]. They were astounded as they watched contending elements within the white population fight each other, and slowly realized Afikaners would win, here in South Africa if not in Europe, and that when they did, they were going to be very harsh with the Blacks. Old Micah ... had sadly assured his family: 'Whoever wins, we lose.'


Go figure .... on white folks tribal warfare called national elections.
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Fnemecek
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quote:

Brian: You are so clueless and confused. Slick Willie didn't care what people wanted, not to mention Hillary



Keep telling yourself that, Amelia. In another 10 months, when Hilary is still in the U.S. Senate, when Bill is still enjoying the success equated with being a 2-term President and when you & Kwame are both unemployed - we'll see who really knows politics.
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Amelia
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Fnemecek: You really know how to make my case! With people like you bumpin' around in the dark, we can't lose. Thanks for the supporting evidence. Let's close and send the jury out.
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Supersport
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After McPhail's stupid ass participation in the Sambo awards, I wouldn't vote for her if she was the only canidate running. I'm not the only Detroit voter that feels this way either. Once again, her childish antics have shown. That woman isn't mature enough to run a city, I'd rather take Kwame for another 4 years.
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Fnemecek
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SS:
Less mature than Kwame??? Sorry, dude - that ain't possible.

The Sambo awards may be a stupid example of political satire but, in my opinion, a true definition of one's maturity includes things like a willingness to do the job you're hired to do and accepting responsiblity for your own conduct.

Kilpatrick has failed both accounts. Please don't let cheap theatrics cloud your judgement over who is the best to lead Detroit for the next 4 years.

Amelia:
You and I can go on and on about who knows more about politics. The proof, however, is in the pudding.

You say that Kwame is a shoo-in for re-election. I say he only has about a 40% chance of surviving the primary.

In a few months, we'll know which one of us talking out of your respective ass.
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Amelia
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Fnemecek: Please find a quote where I said "Kwame is a shoo-in for re-election". What I will project is that [while speaking of azzes] both opponents are not straight shooters and will either shoot themselves or each other in the ASS. Looks like you already took a bullet.
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Fnemecek
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No need to search very far. You essentially said it in posts 155 and 158.
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Amelia
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Fne: You can do better than "essentially". Please identify a quote, preceded by a comma, preceded by "Amelia said". That's what people like you do to Kilpatrick. Thanks again for taking another bullet.

(Message edited by Amelia on March 08, 2005)
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Fnemecek
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Amelia:
Pardon me for paraphrasing. Moreover, if paraphrasing is your idea of "taking a bullet" then you may as well start cleaning out your office.
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Amelia
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Paraphrasing is a bullet with no name on it, which in your case, was not the truth. My prediction of both sharon and freman was that they would either shoot each other, or themselves in the azz. Thus, Sharon + Sambo awards = joke and Freman + cadillac + mildred gaddis = out-of-control. My bullet had a name on it and hit its target. Your paraphrasing/distortion/untrut h only wounded YOUR credibility.
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Fnemecek
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"Distortion/untruth?"

My paraphrased comment was that you've argued that Kwame is a shoo-in for re-election. When you asked for sources, I cited posts 155 and 158. Anyone who was so inclined can easily compare your original comment with my paraphrasing to see that I didn't distort it at all.

Let's look at your original comments to see how accurate that is. In post 155, you said:

quote:

With people like you bumpin' around in the dark, we can't lose.



I'm sorry, were you talking about another mayoral candidate? I mean, you've consistently bashed the McPhail and Hendrix camps so I deduced that the "we" in your quote refered to the Kilpatrick camp.

Please explain yourself.

(Message edited by fnemecek on March 10, 2005)
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Metrodetguy
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Amelia,

$25k Navigator/cover up + petty cash thefts + security detail overtime/oversize + DC scandals + cutting bus service + nepotism + police officers lawsuits + massive deficit + empty promises + etc. = a joke that is out-of-control
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Supersport
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I don't think the 6,000 city workers that would be layed off are finding McFail funny. Hell, its obvious why she has a losing track record. Her competition just has to sit back and watch, she defeats herself.
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Jmy8
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In other news, Emergency Financial Manager Steps in and Lays Off City Council and Mayor to Balance Budget.
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Amelia
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Fne: If we can both agree that you, indeed, are "bumpin around in the dark" then yes, I'll agree to essentially saying "Kilpatrick is a shoo-in for re-election".
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Fnemecek
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Nice try, Amelia.
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Amelia
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metroDboy:

add all your Kwame yadda+yadda+, THEN subtract pyscho+black sambogate+wedding+rigged chair+lyin+pissed-off Nolan Finley+gaddis, THEN subtract campaign-cadillac+school takeover+no$$$+mcphail-bait+wi fe-who-embezzled-at-BCBS = KILPATRICK WINS!
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Amelia
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For those who can't break the code, ask Freman why Ms. Lewis left Blue Cross Blue Shield? This is REAL dirt!
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Brian
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Both Freman and kilpatrick going negative? They both have nothing positive to offer so they can only offer attacks.
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Amelia
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Brian: EXCUSE ME!!! Going negative? How long do you think candidates are going to stand around and get TAR thrown on them by your candidate? I don't think anything is negative after SAMBOGATE, I think we're all just joking. I suggest you start laughing. If you and your candidate can't take as good as you give, it's going to be an early summer in Detroit for ya'.
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Brian
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Amelia, my candidate didn't pick your candidate to be the awards recipient. The people of Detroit who voted in the event chose your candidate. My candidate merely MC'ld the event.

Its tough when the people who vote label your candidate with a name like Sambo. Will you cry and call the voters negative? OR will you stick to your scape goat.
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Kwame in 05!!!!
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Jmil
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"Kwame in 05", O HELL NAW!!!!

Note to self:
Remember to bitch slap histeric. LOL
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"Both Freman and kilpatrick going negative? They both have nothing positive to offer so they can only offer attacks."

Why, did they hand out Sambo awards too and I missed it?
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"Amelia, my candidate didn't pick your candidate to be the awards recipient. The people of Detroit who voted in the event chose your candidate. My candidate merely MC'ld the event. "
So she obviously didn't care about what she was handing out? Someone just handed her a pile of shit on a piece of wood and she "awarded" it to Kwame without knowing full well what she was doing?
Laughable.
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Brian
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Those are your words aram. It shows your level of respect to the many many folks who attended and contributed to the event. Comments like yours contribute to why Detroiters don't like folks from the burbs.
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The_aram
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Should people from the 'burbs respect racism?
No one should. I never thought I'd be chastised for not being open-minded to a blatantly deplorable function like the Sambo Awards.
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Metrodetguy
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Amelia:

Subtract school takeover from Hendrix and add to Kilpatrick. Throw Prop E in there while you're at it.

Also subtract false accusation about Hendrix's wife at BCBS.

Add embezzlement charges to Kilpatrick's wife and sister from their "charity".

Add insurance fraud by Kilpatrick's sister.

Add Christine Beatty.

Etc, etc.

Total = Kilpatrick loses Mayor's office to Hendrix. Still want to go negative?
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Brian
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The only one who will be harmed in a negative campaign would be Helmut. Kilpatrick has had negative things on him since before he was elected mayor. Helmut and Gill could not defeat the young man.
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Dont forget Benny, he was in Gil's camp too...
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Brian
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Benny supported Gil, but did not run the campaign. But you miss the issue.

Only Helmut and Kilpatrick have 'skeletons' in their closet. There are things folks don't want to reveal because they are hurtful to these two candidates. Contrast with Sharon McPhail who already has all of her information out in the open. Ditto Benny.
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The_aram
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Posted on Sunday, March 13, 2005 - 2:45 am:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

How do you know she has all her information out in the open? Or is that too one of your baseless claims?
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Itsjeff
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Posted on Sunday, March 13, 2005 - 2:47 am:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Because if she had any skeletons, they'd have come out in any of her last campaigns.
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Posted on Sunday, March 13, 2005 - 2:53 am:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

There's always dirt to dig up on anybody. And how long has it been since her last campaign?
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quote:

There's always dirt to dig up on anybody.



DO you really believe your own words? Are your parents dirty?

Then again, aram, you are a young man. You don't know much in the way of politics and you don't have alot of experience.

Above you state, or attack Sharon McPhail yet you ask this question,

quote:

how long has it been since her last campaign?



Do you know any real information about the people you attack or do you just like to attack?
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The_aram
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I didn't ask because I didn't know. I asked to prompt you to ask yourself.
Brian, you pull the same bullshit up in here all the time, I rather enjoy giving you a little taste of your own ridiculous medicine from time to time just to watch you complain about how everybody else does it but you.
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Brian
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Posted on Sunday, March 13, 2005 - 1:44 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Aram, you made the statement about dirt.

Now you are saying you posted that not because you believe it to be true but because you were trying to make a point about how others post?
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He could have posted it as a joke. You know like the way people always joke about being attacked by chairs, planning layoffs, and making racial slurs. Ok, maybe its not frequently done, but I do know someone that has done it.
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Amelia
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metroboy: Let's save the negatives for the professionals. They can do it better than you, especially when all you do is sit on your keyboard and wait for me to tell you something about your candidate freman hendrix that nobody knows anything about. We have time to go, I'll save mine until last.
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Metrodetguy
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Amelia, you haven't offered anything of substance in support of Mayor Kilpatrick nor how Detroiters will benefit from his re-election. You truly sound like someone desperate to hang on to her job. Speaking of time...yours is running out.
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Fnemecek
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Amen, Metrodetguy.

But then again, you and I just stumbling around in the dark. What do we know?
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Amelia
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Yes, you boys are fishing without bait. A job? LOL. What I can offer you is this [if you didn't hear Adolph Mongo this morning on Flashpoint] .... "Nobody can beat him!" Keep this in mind when it comes to politics - YOU CAN'T DO JACK UNLESS YOU GET ELECTED! see ya' at the polls so says Ras.
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Fnemecek
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quote:

YOU CAN'T DO JACK UNLESS YOU GET ELECTED!



Yep - and if you're Kwame, you can't do jack after you get elected either.
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You know this crime plan is REALLY scary...it is like Big Brother watching? And there are more cameras in a casino that he is pledging for the entire city. This program is really bad.